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The Short Review:

* The seminar was comprised of all new techniques and information.
* The format and presentation made it easy to learn and understand.
* Although it wasn’t flawless, the whole experience was definitely worth it.
* I highly recommend this Seminar if you have the desire to be good with women beyond the sarge.


Format:

The first six hours were dedicated to breaking down Relationships by type. Savoy and company have whittled down the complex variety of relationship dynamics into six categories. Savoy presented the information in a casual, friendly way while taking the time to answer questions fully.

The next four hours were spent in a more relaxed, conversational format. Attendees were invited to share their particular relationship goals while Savoy guided a round-table discussion of the issues involved in each person's unique experience. While no one was required to stay for this portion, nearly everyone did.

Content:

Savoy exhibited a thorough, deep knowledge of the material. He spent significant time breaking down each relationship category in terms of how to get it, as well as how to keep it. The categories presented are as follows:

* Friends with Benefits
* Dating/Undefined
* Multiple Relationships
* Open Relationships
* Traditional Plus
* Traditional Relationships


Savoy organized these categories in terms of the exchange between level of commitment and level of freedom in a relationship. He provided numerous examples. He explained the appropriate frame for each type, as well as tips on how to stay in a type or move from one type to the next. Savoy offered scenarios showing the mistakes most men make when in a relationship, especially men who have pick-up game.

This Seminar was a major departure from the type of information available in the community at large. I've read a lot of pick-up material, and I can honestly say that this topic is severely underrepresented elsewhere. Savoy is breaking new ground with these techniques, teaching men what to do AFTER you've got the girl(s).

The community has prepared many of us for how to get a woman to cheat on her boyfriend with you. But until now, no one has really explained how to prevent cheating in the women you date. Savoy spoke extensively about why women cheat, how to spot a woman that is predisposed to cheating, and how best to guard against your woman cheating. Best of all, he framed the discussion within the context of each relationship type rather than just traditional.

Throughout the Seminar, Savoy made several surprising insights that have permanently changed the way I see relationships. I felt illuminated in much the same way that I did when I first found the community.

Overall Impressions:

Savoy has clearly spent ample time gathering information and compiling experiences to create a comprehensive guide to managing relationships. He engaged the topic with passionate fervor—something I expect from a good speaker. I look forward to any future products that may come of this fairly new segment of community knowledge.

The DVDs are wonderful not only because they feel the empty niche of "dating and relationships" in pick up but because they do it so well. Speaking as a man who loves commitment, a guy who want's more out of a girl then just to sleep with her and never see her again these DVDs allow me a better look into the world of relationships and what to do after you have the girl. Watching the DVDs and taking notes have given me much greater freedom in knowing what I want and how to get it while also making me question why I want one type of relationship over another. If you're a PUA who wants multiple relationships, monogamy or even if you have a girl and want to know how to keep her happy and loyal then these DVDs are for you.

I got the DVDs in the mail last Saturday and I literally watched them non-stop glued to every minute.

The foundations were helpful and the three rules of relationships are great guides. Next came an overview of the different types of relationships followed by general prinicpals that apply to all relationships (I would list them but I am unsure how much detail I can provide). Savoy then goes into each type of relationship in detail and provides very sound advice in each case. I myself am on the verge of a traditional relationship so I was particularly glued to this part and I found some pretty useful information there. I would have liked a bit more information on the traditional relationship because I did know some of the rules Savoy outlined from Magic Bullets and the Friends with Benefits interview. But this part was supplemented later with some interesting stuff.

After the types of relationships comes a section on how to change relationship types which was very insightful. One of my favorite parts was next: the model of predicting infidelity. This part was pure genius and I got a lot of great information here. A subheading of this came up when Savoy gave advice what to do when a guy starts flirting with your girlfriend and it was not what I expected. I have definitely addressed this issue incorrectly in the past and I was writing FURIOUSLY during this part.

After each section was a Q & A and for the most part these were helpful as well. The bonus Q & A disc was a mixed bag in my opinion. Granted, it was a bonus, but some of the questions seemed not useful to me. Maybe for others they would prove useful.

Overall, I would give this product my unreserved recommendation! The video is well produced, professional, and full of great advice. It is definitely the essential relationship guide and I am sure I will consult it frequently in the future.

If you're thinking of buying this course, stop right now and just get it, it's that good. It's worth the money.

...it's what you need to know if you're in this "game" to win.

Content wise it's jammed packed full of useful relationship information whether you're a newbie (read: virgin) or had more than your fair share of relationships with beautiful women (read: i'm jealous).

I personally believe the infidelity model is pure gold and worth the price of the DVD's alone, but if you're reading this you're probably dubious as it is, so i found the Q and A session at the end of the course pretty insightful. It's where Savoy gives his own version of an FAQ from what i believe were bootcamp students at the time of the seminar recording.

All in all a worthwhile tool.

I got the DVDs in the mail last Saturday and I literally watched them non-stop glued to every minute.

The foundations were helpful and the three rules of relationships are great guides. Next came an overview of the different types of relationships followed by general prinicpals that apply to all relationships (I would list them but I am unsure how much detail I can provide). Savoy then goes into each type of relationship in detail and provides very sound advice in each case. I myself am on the verge of a traditional relationship so I was particularly glued to this part and I found some pretty useful information there. I would have liked a bit more information on the traditional relationship because I did know some of the rules Savoy outlined from Magic Bullets and the Friends with Benefits interview. But this part was supplemented later with some interesting stuff.

After the types of relationships comes a section on how to change relationship types which was very insightful. One of my favorite parts was next: the model of predicting infidelity. This part was pure genius and I got a lot of great information here. A subheading of this came up when Savoy gave advice what to do when a guy starts flirting with your girlfriend and it was not what I expected. I have definitely addressed this issue incorrectly in the past and I was writing FURIOUSLY during this part.

After each section was a Q & A and for the most part these were helpful as well. The bonus Q & A disc was a mixed bag in my opinion. Granted, it was a bonus, but some of the questions seemed not useful to me. Maybe for others they would prove useful.

Overall, I would give this product my unreserved recommendation! The video is well produced, professional, and full of great advice. It is definitely the essential relationship guide and I am sure I will consult it frequently in the future.

I'd always done well with women in cold approach/SNL scenarios. Things have changed a bit in the past 20-25 years since I really started dating (I was born in 1969), texting had become huge and flakiness was now considered normal behavior instead of rudeness, so I needed to tweak my fashion a little (upgraded the boots and t-shirts I wore, added some jewelry), phone game, and understanding of social circle/flakiness, but nothing big. Meet to sex had never been a really big issue. What drove me to the community was relationship management; learning to screen for the right women, managing the relationship overall.

Back in the 60’s they had free love, and in the 70's people were still pretty frank about setting up the parameters for whether they were exclusive or not. Openness and honesty around sex got replaced with shame and fear when Reagan and AIDS came along. I have to say I feel sorry for people growing up now, because it’s a huge deal if someone can hit triple digits in lays now whereas then it was pretty common, especially in the 1960-70’s.

What I loved about this program was that it fills a void that isn't handled anywhere else in the "community", and that is how to set levels of commitment in a culture that no longer handles those things as bluntly as it used to. I'd stopped having sex with some of the women that I'd had the opportunity to, because I didn't know how to handle their expectations without hurting their feelings if I wasn't interested in being their BF. In this course I learned how to set the expectations for low, medium, and high level commitments, the possibilities/expectations of threesomes, and to screen for fidelity, all within the first few hours of meeting a woman. They had to do with how I met her, how I pursued her, what I presented to her as the lifestyle I was living, what I told her about my social life, the topics of conversation I had with her in general, and when to stop talking about that stuff after the expectations had been made clear. Most importantly I learned how to keep those expectations clear after I've slept with a woman, so that no one's feelings got hurt. The course also tells you how to know where the relationship is headed, and how to change commitment levels if need be, but with the screening information and qualification section you really should be able to set up the right commitment level from the word go, which makes things so much easier than changing people's expectations. Savoy screens for women's character, in addition to their fidelity, are really useful before setting commitment levels.

Growing up in the 70's was the decade that they preached women and men were not only equal, but also the same. The good news was that women always insisted on paying for their half of the date, without question. The bad news was that we were encouraged to talk fights out as equals, which didn't work that well then, and definitely doesn't work now. Savoy gave tips on how to set boundaries, and how to handle fights. Back when we were being taught that women and men were the same, we weren't being told that sometimes women fight for NO reason whatsoever, and that it doesn't mean ANYTHING. Savoy had some good solutions for how to handle that situation.

All in all I could have used some of this stuff when I first started dating, and it was really essential for me now that so many of the unwritten rules have changed from just 20 years ago.

Having recieved a copy of the newest Love System's DVD course "Relationship Management" I found myself pretty excited. It wasn't like many of the other courses and seminars I've seen, it was fundamentally different. It appealed to the more visceral and real part of me: The part that knows that, one day, I wish to be in a committed monogamous relationship with the woman I wish to spend my life with. It also appealed to the ever more present belief that, until I do meet the right girl that I want to marry, I want to be with as many girls as possible and test what's out there.

The excitement rose as I put it in my DVD player. Would it live up to my expectations? Too many courses teach you how to approach and attract the girl, but this is the only one I've seen that focuses on how to keep her.

The first disc was filled with the basics of relationship management techniques. It serves as the backdrop for which all the other DVD's are set to. It starts off talking about the foundations of relationships. It does not just focus on one relationship but instead creates three arch-types of a relationship based on commitment levels (High, medium and low respectively). High commitment relationships are relationships that require more time and effort and thought. Things such as a traditional, monagamous relationship and a traditional plus (where you only date each other except for mutually agreed upon threesome) are considered high commitment. Medium commitment covers multiple long term relationships and open relationship's. Low commitment covers dating/undefined and friends with benefits. The first disc also goes through the general principles one should follow under any type of relationship and gives some practical advice on how to approach relationships.

Disc two delves deeper into the types of relationship. It explains, in detail, the level of commitment needed, what kind of ideas or expectation's should be set up at what time period in order to have a healthy relationship no matter where it fall on the commitment continum. As the DVDs state, relationship management begins BEFORE you sleep with a girl. It is on this disc that you will learn to embed relationship ideals into stories and conversation, how to manage your's (and her) expectations and how to deal with the common relationship pitfalls. The DVDs also introduce another level usually forgotten in pick up: How to transition between relationship types. Mostly though, the best and easiest transition is within commitment levels. However, if you have your base (lowest form of commitment), you can easily take a relationship up the commitment levels while if you try to move down from the highest commitment level you risk losing her. Here Savoy gives not only good tips and advice on how to create these relationships, but also gives direct lines and quote's and stories to help you learn how some delicate subjects should be broached. To broaden the scope of the DVD, Savoy has a chapter devoted to infidelity where he explains the 3 part infidelity model, an almost mathematical formula to see if a girl is cheating on you but, when used as a baraometer to see how your relationhsip is progressing, can prevent you from being cheated on. This alone make's the DVD a boon to have when trying to get a good relationship.

The third and final disc is strictly Q & A. Although each chapter has a Q and A section this last disc goes mush deeper into some of the themes and ideas covered in the DVDs or will approach the matter from a different angle. The question's are all thoughtfully answered, some taking up to two minutes and longer, more nebulous questions taking up to eight minutes. The question's themselves run the gamut from the vital (i.e. how to find out if your girlfriend is cheating, finding the right relationship type for you, telling her you are seeing other people, screening for things you want and how to encourage those behaviors in the women you date) to the very useful (i.e. managing multiple relationships, what dates are more likely to lead to sex, ect).

On the negative side, some of the tips given are common sense. This happens more in the first disc then it does in the second or third. Of course, seeing as it is an introduction to relationships that is to be expected.

The DVDs are wonderful not only because they fill the empty niche of "dating and relationships" in pick up but because they do it so well. Speaking as a man who loves commitment, a guy who want's more out of a girl then just to sleep with her and never see her again these DVDs allow me a better look into the world of relationships and what to do after you have the girl. Watching the DVDs and taking notes have given me much greater freedom in knowing what I want and how to get it while also making me question why I want one type of relationship over another. If you're a PUA who wants multiple relationships, fuck buddies, monogamy or even if you have a girl and want to know how to keep her happy and loyal then these DVDs are for you.