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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
"Terrible"
Effectiveness
2.0
Reviewed by Andrew
June 07, 2015
June 07, 2015
I joined this because I really wanted coaching more than anything, just somebody to support me as I was learning this solo without wings. It's a shame because the coaching offered is the worst part of this product, and is not worth the money you pay for it.
After listening to the seminar I went out the first weekend solo, both nightclub and daygame, after sitting in the house for a long time I threw myself into it, I had a really hard time in the club. I was feeling really crappy and returned to the forum to post my results.
It turned out I had misunderstood the directions that the Brad P openers were mandatory, while I had used whatever felt right. Rather than simply let me know the coach spoke to me like a piece of dirt, told me what I liked doing didn't mean shit. When I called him out on it and told him not to speak to me like that he apologised and said that none of the coaches get paid and he has to get through posts as fast as possible.
Brad P, here's a tip, if you're charging people money for something, you may want to pay your coaches, then they may give a more professional service.
After feeling like crap I wanted some support from the support network I had paid for. It totally threw me off and I couldn't open again for the next three weeks, and I cancelled my membership. I was that unimpressed by it that I was even willing to pay the $250 cancellation fee that is mentioned in the documentation, but I was told that they no longer charge people to cancel which is a tip for people if they want to get out of it but feel they can't afford it.
In terms of the coaching I got I would've been equal or better off posting on a random PUA forum. Considering I posted hardly anything for 3 weeks after this incident, you would've expected one of the coaches to have caught up with me to ask how I was getting on, but it's obvious they are spread so thin that they didn't have time to, or do a bare minimum of work because they are not paid.
The material is stuck in 2004, it's like the stuff RSD used to teach before they switched to natural game ages ago. I think the material hasn't been updated for 10 years because of the pop culture references in the openers that aren't relevant now.
On a positive side it seems I had joined just before they were revamping the system but I don't know what improvements would be made, but it didn't sound like they had any intention of investing money into the coaching system.
After listening to the seminar I went out the first weekend solo, both nightclub and daygame, after sitting in the house for a long time I threw myself into it, I had a really hard time in the club. I was feeling really crappy and returned to the forum to post my results.
It turned out I had misunderstood the directions that the Brad P openers were mandatory, while I had used whatever felt right. Rather than simply let me know the coach spoke to me like a piece of dirt, told me what I liked doing didn't mean shit. When I called him out on it and told him not to speak to me like that he apologised and said that none of the coaches get paid and he has to get through posts as fast as possible.
Brad P, here's a tip, if you're charging people money for something, you may want to pay your coaches, then they may give a more professional service.
After feeling like crap I wanted some support from the support network I had paid for. It totally threw me off and I couldn't open again for the next three weeks, and I cancelled my membership. I was that unimpressed by it that I was even willing to pay the $250 cancellation fee that is mentioned in the documentation, but I was told that they no longer charge people to cancel which is a tip for people if they want to get out of it but feel they can't afford it.
In terms of the coaching I got I would've been equal or better off posting on a random PUA forum. Considering I posted hardly anything for 3 weeks after this incident, you would've expected one of the coaches to have caught up with me to ask how I was getting on, but it's obvious they are spread so thin that they didn't have time to, or do a bare minimum of work because they are not paid.
The material is stuck in 2004, it's like the stuff RSD used to teach before they switched to natural game ages ago. I think the material hasn't been updated for 10 years because of the pop culture references in the openers that aren't relevant now.
On a positive side it seems I had joined just before they were revamping the system but I don't know what improvements would be made, but it didn't sound like they had any intention of investing money into the coaching system.
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