Pandora's Box System    Compare

You pay for the package deal and then they send you to a site which if you loose it you loose everything with no way to get back in or get your money back. Pure rip off. Besides it that weeks and weeks to get the whole package if you even make it to any part of the program. eor a $170 I ended up with a PDF file of AMANS GUIDE TO THE WOMEN MIND part 1 I guess they think that is worth $179. What a rip off and no place to contact them about your problem, no emails telling you paid for the program. Just give away your money as normal for this bunch.

The ads for Pandora's Box gives off the impression that if you ask women these magical three questions, they will be helpless to do anything but fall madly in love with you, and chances are she will have sex with you right there and then. This is a massive case of "too good to be true."

So the first problem with the system is the obvious, the ads are exceptionally misleading. While they purposely make it seem like ask three simple questions and make women fall in love with your (I am pretty sure most ads use those exact words) what the system teaches is (according to the system) all women have three different independent value systems. And each one will (according to the system) suggests what that woman is looking for in a man/relationship.

So each "question" is not a question you can ask a woman but rather questions you must find out about the woman.

The Second problem is, the system says to seduce a woman you need to find answers to the 3 questions, but it does not give advice on how to do so. And these are EXTREMELY personal questions, many (if not most) women if you asked them these questions directly would lie, thus defeating the purpose.

The Third problem with the system is it is mostly just rainmaking, every step of the way it asks for more money. The system in itself that you pay for, the system that is suppose to have three simple questions (which are anything but simple), this system according to the ads is suppose to be all you need to get with any woman you desire. However after you buy the system, Dicarlo is quickly telling you how to get girls you need to buy more videos and coaching tapes and a lot of other junk.

I jump off all "systems" at that point (if I can before that point).

Pandora's box is at best misleading and at worst a flat out lie. If the price of the starter kit was lower I might be willing to recommend fun little guide on understanding women better, but $70, come on! You can get better info from Barnes and Noble for under $30. (Hell under $10 used.)

These guys ripped me off, didnt get half of the stuff i was supposed to. Charged me like $500 then $100 monthly for some stupid pdf emails

Effectiveness:

I give it 2 stars for the good advice given if you've never read any book on dating.

Ease of Implementation:

3 stars, although that doesn't make it quick and easy. I was thinking of other programs out there like Speed Seduction and Love Systems which have a ton of stuff to memorize which can also be overwhelming.

Innovativeness:

1 entire star. At first it seems innovative, at worst; but this idea has been done before, more than once. Of course we all know about MBTI, or the 8 Myers/Briggs personality types, which are ENFP, INFP, ESFP, ESTJ, ect...
Or maybe there are 16.
And before that, Carl Jung had his 4 (I think) personality types. Maybe it was 8.
Then Ross Jeffries sold a product through Straightforward, Inc.,
How to Find, Control and Seduce the Women of Your Dreams,
which I actually purchased over a decade ago, which had to do with seducing each woman according to her Zodiac sign. http://www.speedseduction.net/products/SF77.asp
I probably still have it in my attic and for all I know it works like gangbusters. Or it could be a magic feather (Dumbo could fly on his own but thought he could fly only when he held a feather).

The Myers/Briggs always struck me as circular reasoning. Take the long quiz, and it shows you the type you are according to your answers.

The categories Vinny puts women in seem a bit arbitrary for seduction, except the Denier/Justifier category. She either sleeps with lots of men or only one. Alert the media! Vinny "the mouse" DiCarlo discovered the secret of women that nobody could see. Some women sample men, and some women invest in one, once she's fallen for him (I know I'm mixing categories).
Anyway, Vin I expect Vin to come out with a sequel to Pandora with a 9nth "type," or one more "either/or" dichotomy which will make I don't know how many more combinations of women (you do the math).

What annoys me the most about this product is that the author claims that it's backed up with truckloads of "science." This simply isn't true. His buddy Brian read some books (ala David DeAngelo) and Vin interviewed hundreds of thousands of HB7's (you can watch the interviews and assess their attractivess yourself when you get the program), and then squeezed them into his categories.

Value:

This product should've been priced at $20, like Ross Jeffries book. Maybe even $15, because RJ's book has 12 types, so you can get 1.5 times the results (just kidding).
Also included are "videos," to go along with each ebook. They don't really add anything, because Vin just narrates word-for-word each ebook (with a worse lisp than David DeAngelo).

It reads like a newspaper horoscope (in other words, the advice he gives for dealing with _____ type could apply to any woman).
Notice how the following advice would work well with any woman.
Here are some tips for dealing with the different types:

The Playette

"The Playette wants a man who will arouse her, seduce her, take her, tame her, and leave her wanting more."
"The most effective way to get the Playette interested in you is to tease her. Avoid compliments unless she has earned them."

Oh, and all girls who go to clubs and drink are Playettes, at least when they're clubbing. So you can keep this system simple and skip all the remaining types, focusing only on club girls.

The Social Butterfly

Stand tall, and position yourself in the same proximity as if you already know her.
Smile and look her in the eye when you are talking.
Use fun, dominant touch. When you hug her, lift her up slightly.

The Hopeless Romantic

When it comes to sex itself, a Romantic will play a passive role. But when she is aroused, she responds powerfully. To her, she has drawn the man to her, and won his desire.

The Cinderella Woman

Strong eye contact is important, but don’t invade her personal space
initially. When you get the sense that she is interested, close the space
and create a bubble around the two of you with your focus.
A great way to do excite her is by tracing her neckline with your eyes.
Light touching on her arm or lower back is a good move at the beginning.

The Private Dancer

You must carry yourself assertively. Asking for compliance is a great way to open, but this requires you to do so in a congruent, confident way. Stand up straight and talk like you expect people to listen. When you ask her something, look her in the eyes.

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I'll stop there, because I'm getting bored. It reads just like How to Find, Control and Seduce the Women of Your Dreams. I'm not sure which book is better.
It's all basically great advice, but it confuses you with all the different types so that the book could be unique.
It would've been a decent book with just the advice without the separation of women.

In summary, this is hocus-pocus dressed up as science (and not convincingly).
Anyone with a scientific background can quickly see through this. If it were really supported by "science," there would be pages and pages of citations of studies in the back of the book. Instead the author just tells us he interviewed 10 whorehouses worth of women and confirmed for himself that his types are accurate. There are so many flaws with his method of classification and his method of arriving at the truth that you'd need a statistics course to see them all.

There can be great value in gaining knowledge through interviews (in psychology, it's called qualitative research, as opposed to quantitative), but Vin DiCarlo is the last person I'd trust to get anything useful out of hundreds of hours of interviews.

I wouldn't say it's all useless, and the concept is promising.
The execution left me limp.

I have had the program for 3 weeks.
So far most of the product is telling you how awesome the product is, and how much you will enjoy it.

In 3 weeks I have received more than 40 emails promising to give you a technique, but instead talking about how amazing the technique is.

There are videos. Videos that you can't pause, nor fast forward. And you REALLY want to fast forward past the same thing being said over and over again, and it is only about how great the program is.

Here is the thing. I would be willing to pay more money for a good program.

I have not recieved the goods despite having billed over amonth ago.This may be a admin problem but I do not hold much hope in recieving the training program.

Oh boy. Where to begin. If you buy the entire upsell thing at their ridiculous price, there is so much crap that they throw at you. Unfortunately, none of it is useful. You just wasted all your money.

The entire premise of the system is that you find out what type of girl she is and follow some seduction strategies specific to her type. They say that you will then know how to approach and attract this particular type of girl. There are three problems with this.

1) There is no way to know what type of girl she is until you are well into your interaction with her. It's not like they tell you how to determine what type of girl she is within the first few minutes of interaction. You have to get to know some deeply personal stuff about her to really categorize her. And the only way to do that is if you are in some deep connection conversation with her. How often does that happen within the first few minutes?

2) You cannot rely on her answers to figure out what type of girl she is. We all know this by now. Women lie. Ask her if she has a lot of boyfriends, and she'll say "no" when she's out dating three other guys at the moment. So thinking that you can determine what type of

3) The "specific" strategies they give you is actually very generic and useless. "Go out and do 2 or 3 casual things on the first date." "Touch her lightly in a non sexual way." Really? You're telling me that this is the kind of "revolutionary" seduction strategies that he came up with? Stuff that every guy knows since the dawn of man? And then he says, "Get sexual as soon as possible." Well, duh! But how? Oh, there's absolutely nothing about it in any of the material. It's just general stuff about trying to get sexual, but not too pushy.

The truth is that some of the advice that is given may work if you are already in a relationship with a girl. You can try and tailor your interactions with her to keep her interested. The problem is getting her interested in the first place. There is NOTHING in here that will help you do that. What this product, and all other PUA products, ignore and deny is that initial attraction is based on how physically attractive you are to a woman. But they obviously can't make money off of chumps if they admitted that.

All the bonus videos and interviews are absolutely garbage. Not only are they spreading misinformation, it is so boring to listen to. The interviews have no direction, and everyone just sits there stiffly rambling on and on about nothing.

Overall: a waste of time and money.

This system claims to help you understand real women while degrading them by using filthy language. I tried the course and found that this did not help me to understand real women just dirty women. Those with an elevated view of the opposite sex would do well to stay away from this filth. The cost was all wrong, in fact I should have been paid to subject myself to this rubbish and even then it wouldn't be worth it. I could never use this this system on the type of women I know because it would certainly backfire. If you are just about sex well then maybe it is for you and you probable know the type of women that would be interested but as for me it was non-applicable and had no application to my life. Avoid this if you have good sense.