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AM is somewhat entertaining if you can get your hands on a copy but if you paid full price you'll kick yourself for giving up two mortgage payments for purchasing it.

This is old, outdated technology, entertainment. I'm sorry Mystery put this out. Long, poorly formatted. Mystery is so much better than this stuff. You would learn more by buying 8 copies of Revelation and reading it 8 times in 8 diffrent places.

Hi guys, just want to make my own review on this thing..

First off, when I picked up the package at the post office, I thought to myself that this can't be the whole set.. it was so small.. but, when I came home and opened the thing.. it was.. and I got pretty disappointed.. why? Well.. this is maybe a weird thing to care about, but it looked NO-WAY like the pictures they posted at area51, with all the DVD's neatly packed in separate covers, nice colors and stuff.. Oh well.. over to the stuff that really matters..

The second thing I noticed, and this is bad, was the big "book".. they advertised this as "The Blueprint". Well, I expected a total A-Z book on the whole Venusian Arts.. like a super-extended Venusian Arts Handbook.. but no.. this was simply a transcript of the Audio CDs.. what a RIP-OFF! Why would I spend time on reading it, when I can listen to Lovedrop on the CDs?

The Audio CDs rock.. Lovedrop is really good at teaching this stuff.. Every CD is pretty much filled up too.. no 30 minute CDs and BS like that.

And then..
The Video Brain Transplant..
This is simply videotaped parts of a boot-camp... What? We actually pay for something other people already paid for? And we don't even get it all.
There is some good stuff in here, but there is no structure what so ever. The videos start in the middle of topics.. and ends abruptly.. What's up with that? Specially when all the DVDs are less than half full.. Wow.. major disappointment! And it is so badly produced.. At times you watch a blank wall.. they didn't even care to move the camera. The sounds sucks big time, this could have been fixed my renting stuff for $100. The whole thing smells amateur..

Social Cybernetics..
Again.. not very well produced, but this time they actually made more effort to make it for the camera and you can see that it was indented for Mind of Mystery costumers. But.. the sound sucks.. either distorted sound.. or no sound at all.. some of the stuff you can almost not hear at all.. just thru some other dudes mic.. again.. they could have spent a tiny amount of money and gotten it perfect. I honestly hope they didn't hire a guy to do the sound.. if so, he should be kicked out of the sound industry for ever.. (sorry man..). The camera operators and producer is also really bad..
As the Brain Dump DVDs.. the topics get cut off.. and the editor (if there was one) didn't even bother cutting out the bloopers.. wow.. it happens so many times that either mystery or matador says.. ok, go again.. and start over.. haha.. it's ridicules! Amature, amature, amature! (not the PUAs, but the production/post production).

Overall this is a not-planned, badly produced product which is not worth nearly the $2500 we had to pay.. The bright spot in this set is the Audio Mind Dump, even tho the audio quality is bad.. I actually learned some stuff from the CDs.. But.. where did all the new-high-end material go? The only thing they talk about is old routines.. like who lies more, jealous girlfriend and stuff like that.. wow.. I am disappointed

Mystery.. I really thought you would do better than this..
After doing the VH1 show, you can't call this a professional production (as stated in all the BS marketing mails and so on). This is as amature as it gets..

I still respect Mystery, Matador and Lovedrop for their PUA skills, you guys are awesome.. but you did not manage to pull this off..
And yes.. if someone would ask me, as Mike Long did, if I could produce anything better... yes.. if I was the producer of this set.. I can truly say that I would have done it a lot better...

I am sorry to write all this negative stuff.. but I can't lie about what I feel and think about this..

Thanks Mystery, Lovedrop and Matador.. you have done a lot to the community, and it has truly changed my life. I just wish you could have done this better..

Yeah the MOM dvds do go into more detail and have some good solid info. But nothing is really new... but it does help to see them and see more detail to further pound it in your head...
Is it worth the price tag?
No

I would say its worth max.. 800 dollars.

The only thing that pisses me off is the unprofessionlism... Mystery is smoking and drinking... the camera men walk in front of each other and even puts the camera down on a table and is moving while its running....


The girl that is in the video on area 51 the one that is on his left... on his micro calibration video is shown cuddling with Mystery and is only wearing a shirt with no pants..... I dont know if its some kind of social proof to the audience... but its very tacky

I wish they would of made it more professional and had actual trained girls who they did not have to use as rag dolls and be like now stand like this or do this.... they could of used blow up dolls instead.

MOM dvds do go into more detail and have some good solid info. But nothing is really new... but it does help to see them and see more detail to further pound it in your head...
Is it worth the price tag?
No

I would say its worth max.. 800 dollars.

The only thing that pisses me off is the unprofessionlism... Mystery is smoking and drinking... the camera men walk in front of each other and even puts the camera down on a table and is moving shit while its running....

The girl that is in the video on area 51 the one that is on his left... on his micro calibration video is shown cuddling with Mystery and is only wearing a shirt with no pants..... I dont know if its some kind of social proof to the audience... but its very tacky

I wish they would of made it more professional and had actual trained girls who they did not have to use as rag dolls and be like now stand like this or do this.... they could of used blow up dolls instead.

I have to be honest. After watching all the preview videos I've noticed that Mike Long's voice gets really old, really fast. He keeps interrupting the PUAs and repeating what they say for the "idiots" he must think are watching the vids. The Mind of Mystery is a great idea. It looks like its a home version of a bootcamp, which obviously could never replace an actual bootcamp or actual in-the-field training, but it looks like it could be a good product. The problem is that its only available to people that have $2,400 to spend. I guess the $1,000 credit toward a real boot camp is cool. Basically, if you're ready to dive head first into this and go all the way, this looks like its a good idea. Otherwise, there are always the other available methods of learning the game that have been around for years.

I am not 100% finished with the course. I have viewed the video "Brain Transplant," and I am going through the audio course over time. I confess to being disappointed in the video course. I am finding the audio portion of the course to be far more useful and far more interesting.

On the video -- There were several times (most vividly, if I recall correctly, between the 3rd and the 4th DVDs, or the 4th and the 5th maybe) when the topic shifted dramatically, and there was a big leap of logic, technique, and explanation (ie, I needed some "middle" to get to the "end" that they suddenly presented). The audio course is far superior at going step-by-step. The video makes leaps. I actually ejected the DVD once to check that it was, actually, the next DVD in sequence. Also, the video course appears to assume that I have read the "Mind of Mystery" book; the seminar course that is filmed features students who have all read the book. Therefore, as the book is not included in the course, there are "logic leaps" and topic leaps that I am missing.

I am a lawyer, and so, perhaps I am hyper-sensitive to typos. Yet, the DVDs themselves contain typos, and the pdf files that were included as a side guide to the course (with vocabulary and general framework) are RIDDLED with typos. It is as though nobody read the thing over (one cursory read-through would find plenty!).

I suppose, for something that costs me almost $2500, I expect more. I expect DVD menus that don't have patently obvious typos, and documents that appear to have never been read over. It looks rushed, and that is too bad. The leaps of logic in the DVDs are most disturbing though.

Thankfully, the audio course is quite well executed.

Part of the sales pitch of the course was that "Mystery would now focus on his new clients." I hope and I look forward to this. I am left with questions, and I hope he will nurture those who have invested in the course; the course does have confusing shortcomings.

For something so expensive, lots of things are recycled, and it looks very unprofessional. It's hard not to take notice to Erik's new vices, but to do it in a product to be mass produced and distributed is a question of it's worth.

Matador in the in-field videos used material from years ago and nothing ground breaking (no offense to your skillset, I knew you were just trying to be safe in front of the camera). Erik seemed to only go after sets he knew he could easily win over. It also just seems weird to me about Erik's new fascination of drugs, weed, and cigarettes and their use in-field.

Eh, just some caveats. Certainly not worth 2 grand.

I only saw a little of my friend's copy, but...

..a lot of the DVDs are only 25-30 minutes long, and many more are only about 45 minutes. You could have fit the whole thing on about 10 or 12 DVDs, not 21.

There was at least one "warm approach" too. Call me crazy, but I like to see A1-A2. Going for a girl who's already into you is unhelpful.

Matador's cool, though seeing him recite Mystery's old protecting-the-stripper-girlfriend story was very off-putting.