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The infield part was poor mostly. There was a 2 set which Matador opened and then later MYstery joined. Matador just came off as a social robot. He kept on repeating 'get off me now', 'don't get any thoughts' to the point where he's just like an answering machine. His body movements were rigid and he didn't seem to know what to say when mystery enetered the set. Overall, the girls weren't having a lot of fun and neiother were Mystery and matador.

Another thing is the way Mystery gains social proof by talking about how cool his friends are and repeatedly offering the girls to meet his friends came off as too eager and show off. The girls werent interested in his social life really, maybe more interested in getting on camera whatever.

Okay, a friend of mine dropped $2,500 on this and he's really dissapointed and so am I after watching it.

He fell for Mike Long's marketing hype (there are always those that do). Now here's my rundown on what I've seen:

We skipped the "Video Brain Transplant" (9 DVD's) because it looked like it was just a recycled video taping of one of his seminars, which my buddy has already been to.

I didn't get much new out of the "Social Cybernetics" (5 DVD's). In my opinion, 95% of the information can be gleaned from Mystery's first 5 DVD set and by watching the extra's from VH1's The Pickup Artist. As usual, Mystery did a great job of conveying the finer points of the Mystery Method (or whatever its called now); however, I was disappointed with Matador's speech on Microcalibration. It was clearly un-rehearsed and he seemed to, at times, stumble through it by constantly repeating himself. In the end, I was a bit confused as to whether you should micro-calibrate a IOI with an IOI and IOD with an IOD, or the other way around... The whole Social Cybernetics series seemed to be quite unprofessional, almost as if filmed on a whim with little or no time taken for editing.

The last part we watched was the "Holy Grail" (1 DVD), which is the one DVD devoted to Mystery infield with cameras. I was very much looking forward to this one, after hearing Matador & Mystery talk about advanced topics such as rolling off, micro-calibration and forward/backward merging. Unfortunately, you won't see much, if any, of those things in the infield video. It starts off in a club with Mystery being following around by a bunch of cameramen. He tells lovedrop he doesnt want to open the set behind him cause he wants really hot girls. He explains he's going to start by getting some social proof and then open some hot girls. So, a few seconds later, a girl (HB6chubby) opens him and asks him about the cameramen following him around. He locks in (good job) but then it goes downhill from there. His routines are nothing new (but that doesnt bother me)... but what happens next is most surprising...
The girls friends show up, an HB7 and HB8 and two guys. The guys start chatting with Mystery, and apparently one (or both) of them know he's a PUA cause they start talking about game. Mystery tries to neg the HB8, but it is to no avail, the HB7 and HB8 start to lose interest and they leave, and Mystery can't keep them. So he's left chatting with two guys, even the HB6chubby is no longer paying attention to him at this point and starts chatting with someone on her left. One of the guys starts to kind of AMOG Mystery by poking fun of his hat and scarf. He then grabs Mysterys' scarf and says he needs it. So Mystery ends up giving it to him. To Mystery's credit, it really wasn't an AMOG, and he did defuse, but why did he waste so much time with these guys and lose all the girls? Then the guys leave, and Mystery is left sitting there, kinda looking around with nobody to talk to, cause the HB6chubby is chatting with her other friend. Lovedrop quickly runs in (as he should) to chat with Mystery to prevent him from losing more value.. A few moments later, Mystery reopens the HB6chubby and lovedrop vanishes. They chat for a while, all the while there is no kino escalation whatsoever from mystery. He does some vanishing straw magic trick and keeps talking about how he wants to introduce her to his friends, and then the girl tells him he should try some "slutty red head" drink. Mystery says something to the effect "ok, you get the first round". He tells her to go get him a drink and she refuses to go w/o him. So he takes her by the arm and they go to the bar to buy a drink.... AND THEN... the most amazing thing happens....

Mystery ends up paying for the drinks!!!! The camera cut out for a bit, so I can't tell what happened, but she probably told him she didnt have any money or soemthing. He can be seen paying for the drinks and then saying "ok, you get the next ones". He then takes her back to his friends and introduces her. A few moments later, she annouces she'll be back and leaves... and then the video fades to black. I doubt Mystery ever got a drink from her.

The 2nd infield video was a little better, but not much. It starts with some dude talking to a 2-set. Matador shows up and is introduced. He starts stacking routines like a used car salesman! First the best friends test, then the esp routine, then the c smile..... I didn't notice much (if any) microcalibration... and there were no roll-offs! (He spent 40 minutes talking about roll offs in Social Cyberdynamics and then doesn't demonstrate!). Well, to make a long story short, they end up bringing them back to their friends in the VIP area.... but a bit later, the girls friends interrupt (external interrupt), and then the video fades to black. presumably cause they lost the set.

By this point, I was dissapointed to see two infield videos of Mystery, and no number close, no kiss close, not even any kino escalation! Then the 3rd video started. This is the one that was in the Marketing for Mind of Mystery (the Magnum Opus) sent out by mike long. The white party video.. So no need to comment on this one... by this time, it was getting late, and I had to leave, so I didn't finish the videos, but I'll swing by my friends place later and finish this review (hopefully it doesnt get deleted).

In all, I was quite dissapointed. For $2,500, in my opinion, your money is better spent elsewhere. I've done sets that turned out the same or better than in Mystery's infield videos. Its not like they were really bad, but he has a reputation as a Pick-up Guru, and what I saw was equivalent to someone who's been practicing game for about 6 months. Nothing spectacular at all... or... perhaps he wants to show what a typical set will look like. In my experience, nobody I have met will kiss/number close every set every time. Perhaps the PickUp Gurus are more human than we thought....
Hope this review helps you guys.

Ok... my friend dropped off the Infield DVD, and i just finished watching the 3rd video (White Party).. You guys have already seen it on youtube and in the marketing stuff that mike long sent out. In this video, Mystery definately does everything right. He builds attraction and gets alot of compliance from a girl who is getting married. Unfortunately, her fiance was there so Mystery did not try to go any further (props to him for that)... Her interest really peaked after he did a magic trick where he moved her straw. She admitted to him after that, that she is into Energy and new age shit..

The 4th video was also better... Mystery ends up kiss closing a 50 yr old lady.. ugh.. Have to give it to him, he had alot of social proof in the room, especially with all those camera's following him. Girls would just go up to him and open asking "why is everyone filming you tonight?" Wonder how well he would do w/o all the cameras.

I have to be honest, this is some of the worst garbage I've ever seen. The In-Field videos were whack, the AMOGing DVD was crap also, aside from what Fader said, when lovedrop, who is by far the only normal guy in the the crew, tooled Matador HARDCORE.

IDK if anyone else gets this, I read it on Future's blog, that Matador's entire personality is an apparition, and I felt hardcore that this was true. He looks really cool in actuality but he sounds so..deliberate..in..everything that he says. It's annoying after awhile, I know you have to pause and speak more slowly, but he sounds so rehearsed. He is also super nasal, and sounds like a coke fiend.

In DVD 7 he looks so coked out too.

Bottom Line, IMO, I would buy EVERY Interview Series, Magic Bullets and a Custom Routine Stack before I ever bought this.

WOW, who would pay that much money for some guys that are so into themselves talk about pick up and invent their own language. Some are these cds are cool to watch and are impressive, the holy rail pick was pretty lame, mystery picks up some chicks, but he had cameras and all this other 'reality show' junk around him, Matador and Lovedrop are interesting to listen to, Mystery is boring and talks over the same thing over and over... i would pay at most $15 for this product, nothing more...

Well, a rapid review
1 - All DVDs (Video brain transplant, Social cybernetics and Bonus) = IT's the same old stuff you can read in the book, in the forums, in the old DVD series. It's ridiculous the marketing strategy of expose some nude women wearing a simply tshirts, when this gurus are talking
2 - DVD Holy Grail (yeah, this term is perfect ). You can see Mystery and Matador TALKING (but, yeah, you name this SARGING ) with some NO beautiful girls. BLa BLA BLA, same stupid routines, and no pickup, no sexual feeling, nothing, only bla bla bla bla and NO CLOSE. There were cameras NO hidden, and everybody see that, and in some case girls asks about that. It's so obvious that nothing is spontaneus (probably all the sets knows about what Mystery is doing). The only pickup is by Mystery: an ugly mature. And it's not a great pickup, because after talking to the camera, Mystery turn on (casually ) this mature and CASUALLY she opens him, and when Mystery asks about the male with her she says she don't know him ahahahahahahah (is she an old friend actress of Mystery?). Well, if this video show this GURUS of pickup........
I say only this: 2500 bucks!! I repeat, 2500 bucks, and you sell this kind of product? You have no respect for your clients, for people who believe in you. For me Mystery is only a clown, no more respect for him.

I'm watching the boot camp part with matador, and it's pretty horrible. He looks coked out and it doesn't look that professional done. If I spent 5 grand on that bootcamp, I would be pretty pissed off. Not to mention it's the same stuff( routines, story's ) from Mystery's older DvD. Matador even copy Mystery's stripper saver routine also. You think this guy would have some other DHV story off the top of his head instead of some fake story he got from Mystery.

where do i begin...."live footage" of picking up women in the mind of mystery was some of the worst footage i have ever seen.

if these guys are the "gurus" of pick up, let me put it this way, we are all living a fucking illusion. Mystery says "three minute rule over rides the three second rule" he then says i need some social proof, but never lets go of that fat girl to aproach the set he wanted to aproach.

he gets AMOGed by a drunk girl and he cant come up with anything to say, then some old lady "picks HIM up" and then they start to kiss, just pure nasty. that chick had to be at least 45 years old.

then he goes after a cute girl, building rapport, then finds out she has a fiance. owned again.

on the other hand, Matador, is opens a two set, he can barely manage to move the sets, and when they do move, they isolate themselves by sitting far from the girls.

mystery uses the same freaking "when i moved to toronto, i didnt particularly hung out with the best friends", people are just dying for his long ass story to be over, they try to change the subject many many times, but he just keeps going back to it, i would have been bored out of my freaking head.

im pissed about this because if the gurus cant even manage to get a single set, then shouldn't be out there as symbols of pick up. there are guys on this forum alone that can do far far better then these two dudes.

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on another part, mystery gets owned by matador, matador says "your fans deserve to know the girls that were just here were paid to kiss you", mystery comes back saying "oh yeah, but you havent even been laid since you got here"

Matador hasn't got laid for weeks? Mystery pays women to kiss him?

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then we have the instructional part of how to open a set, matador is teaching some total dork how to open a set, i mean this guy isnt even ready to look at a girl, left alone open sets. and matador just picks on every single thing he does, "dude, look slightly to left", "no you waited like 2 seconds longer than you should have to sit down", its like dude, thats not his problem...all you are teaching him is how to be a robot, even actors don't get "instructed" like this.

overall, i thought the product was a disaster. I lost respect for mystery, matador who can't even take a set from start to finish. it makes me question if its been bullshit all along, it helped me because i was looking for perfection "pick up any women you want" but i mean gurus cant even pick up an average looking girl....wtf ?

i think you are much better of spending your money on hookers than to pay couple of Gs to hope you will get laid with this nonsense product...

The very last set was actually quite good. So it was really only the 2 sets from the 'white party' that were good, the rest were eh.

There is no new method. It's the same old method that you can learn in VAH or Mystery book.
Mystery is going to destroy his old reputation. If he continues this way he lost the respect of all people (PUA and AFC).

I didn't like the footage myself.

And I also agree that they should teach more "inner game" and attitudes (Lovedrop's part was cool though, although not too extensive).

That said, I don't think the infield footage does reflect the skill level of VA instructors properly. Too many people have seen them in field to know this. Their game is TOP.