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"I think this is both good and bad."

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The Good
It's good because it puts more practical information into the reader's hands; knowing how to story-tell, how to come up with good openers of all types, understanding relationships and what they take to keep them going, that is all golden nuggets that make it superior in my opinion to the VAH. Relatedly, Savoy constantly stresses honesty. I understand and agree with him to a certain extent. Yes, if you don't have a life that's congruent with your DHV stories, Your opener's aren't from experience, that can hurt. Not to mention that, we'd probably all agree that lying is bad. The downside is, if you're going to be honest and you're just starting out, I can see the average rAFC not having a lot of the lifestyle that lends to good DHV's. What I would have liked to see in this regard was a "Ok, don't lie, but if you have to do so in order to get started, here's how to do it believably". Phone game was always my weakest point. the chapter on phone game was a much needed addition I feel. In addition, the concept of transitioning was a much needed improvement on the ACS model. Overall the model is explained more thoroughly. Negs are given their proper place in the model.
The Bad
I felt that while Day game could have it's own book written about it, more would have been nice, at the expense of Sinn's "article" on Strip Clubs. Honestly, I want a stripper as much as the next horny bastard, and I think that's why I didn't like that chapter. It definitely feels like they added that chapter (which I won't give away what's in it) to increase the selling value to newbies. "Oh look, we also tell you how to get strippers!", when getting strippers as a green pua who quite possibly is also a virgin is way, way more advanced than approaching. Honestly, even a couple of pages on finding good venues and getting in with the staff would have been more useful. I also disliked the lack of canned material. Now, you can go to the forum, which is linked from the book and get canned material. But with all that talk about "don't use this example, let it come from your life" it sets a negative tone for the older, tried and true stuff. Maybe that's where things are going now, but I still think overused canned material is favorable to bad "real life" material.
I dug through it all last night. Here were my impressions:

MB is way broader in scope than VAH was. I think this is both good and bad.

On a technical aspect, the book is set up very user-friendly, with topics and bookmarks and that is both helpful and thoughtful.

And on a last note, buying the book is actually more like buying a subscription to it; you do get updates as the revise and add more material. Maybe my slight issues would be addressed, but if not the work still has a chance to grow and they give that to you without making you buy Magic Bullets II: Electric Giggalo next year.

I would say buy it, but make sure you understand that to be a pick-up artist, you have to go and do pickup. Find a Newbie mission on the forums, stick to it, and along with MB, I think you'll have a much easier time of getting into things.
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"A Great Foundation of Knowledge"

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Now magic bullets sets, like the venusian arts handbook does, a great foundation of knowledge you need in order to start off with game.

If you're looking for more advanced material for high-end game, the 'Venusian Arts Revelation' ebook is the one to pick.
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"I think it's great. By far better than anything else out there."

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What I can say is that the book is beautifully written because it deals with the reader on a few different levels. There's a lot of stuff for newbies, so if you aren't already good, the book is perfect. But even within the newbie-ish stuff, there is a lot of stuff for advanced guys (like me ). Often major pearls of wisdom are inside sections that appear at first to be more general. Like when the book is talking about social circle stuff, I was thinking, yeah, I know this, until all of sudden - how DO you shake guys off who you're friends with when you want to be alone with a girl. Just a couple of sentances, but an example of a priceless nugget.

I think the origanization might be better - more bullet points so some of the great insights don't get missed. But the writing is good - and funny! - so I don't mind too much.

As an advanced guy, I think it's great. By far better than anything else out there.
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"Reverse Engineering Natural Seducers"

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This book was designed as a primer into a whole system of connected ideas and practices regarding how to learn what makes a woman attracted to you as an individual and then how to progress from that attraction towards the final of goal of sex or even a relationship. As the author acknowledges very quickly in the book, the title of the book is somewhat ironic in that there is no one true system or surefire way to attract women, if only because every woman, man, and situation involved in attraction is completely unique with its own dynamic. That is the first lesson anyone reading this book should realize and internalize very quickly…don’t expect to get the one key that will unlock the iron door beyond which all the initiates have attained perfection in their dating and sexual lives. This is only the first step in changing and improving many aspects of your life and how you wish to see it unfold.

As a primer, it necessarily has to paint broad strokes in order to bring a reader into its system as well as providing some concrete examples and exercises. As an introduction to a system, some may be disappointed that it doesn’t give the reader a set of wizardly “spells” to attract women to you effortlessly. But, if you can look beyond those expectations and consciously view the book as the first step toward improvement, then the book takes on new importance as the foundation for continued progress. At the very least, it introduces you to many vocabulary terms and building block concepts for later Love Systems material. As mentioned before, mileage does vary on where you the individual is at in terms of both abstract and practical knowledge of game. At the most abstract level, it should help you put yourself in the mentality of the woman and what her goals and thought processes are. In real-life game theory (the kind used in economics and business) one of the key attributes of success is the ability of the strategist to place himself into the mind of his competitor in order to predict and see things from their point of view. At the very least, take this book as a way of beginning to see how women view the process of attraction and seduction, and therefore you may gain insights into the mindset of your “opponent” in order to get to your goals; which ultimately should lead to an interaction that is mutually satisfying for both parties at some level. (Even if the woman’s goals are different once an interaction moves beyond the actual sexual encounter.)

So, if you view this book as a spellbook, you will be disappointed…but you were most likely disappointed beforehand in your personal life anyway and therefore you lose nothing. If, however, you view it realistically as the first step on a process and journey of discovery and improvement, then Magic Bullets is a good, positive book toward beginning that change that you seek in your life.
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"It's a Great e-book."

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I have read Mystery's guide to getting women into bed and david deangleo's double your dating... MAGIC BULLETS KILLS THEM BOTH PUT TOGETHER. If I had read this earlier, my game would be so much better.

Killer job guys, it's a great e-book.
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"The Book was Actually Really Good."

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i just finished reading Magic Bullets and have to say that the book was actually really good. There are a lot of great things in there that everyone can learn from. However, I did think the second half was more oriented towards people who really just 'didn't get it'. It pretty much told you how not to be a social retard. But as far as pick up goes, the first half was great.
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"The best and the most comprehensive book"

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The Good
Very comprehensive and detailed, gives both theory and practice of seduction
The Bad
Claims is not mystery method, yet is obviously mystery method
Magic Bullets is the best and the most comprehensive book written in this community I've ever seen. It simply includes everything, every detail that you can think of. Like "The Mystery Method - How to get beautiful women in to bed", it gives both the theory and the practice of the act of seduction. It's said to be the latest version of "The Mystery Method - How to get beautiful women in to bed", though it's implied in the introduction part that it's not that mystery method being dealed in the book.

He says that there is not one true method to make the best seduction. He puts six main characteristics that all the pick up artists have in common. he also explains that he's been with the masters for years and played the game very well thanks to mystery method. he confesses he runs the mystery method, which he regards as the gold standard in the community.

on the contrary he claims that what is explained in the book is not totally mystery method. yet it is obviously the mystery method, perhaps a little bit improved or perhaps explained in a simpler daily life language, not much using the complicated jargon instead.

the book is in such a way designed that it goes parallel to the Routines Book. Routines Book actually supports the former one including much more practical activities. Routines Book includes not much theoretical explanation and encourages you to read the Magic Bullets for more detailed theory.

If you read these two books together provided the first read will be Magic Bullets, you can make very well use of these and you can totally change your life. Perhaps inner game is improved better through some other books different than these, yet these two also make you improve your inner game. However, in the forum, it's said to be some other great inner game books existing in the community. But I prefer the products of [Love System Inc] more. At least I prefer first reading the products of [Love System Inc], then later reading the other products.
[Love System Inc]'s products at least their books are the fundamentals.
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"It just Did Not Shake up my View of the World"

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The Good
Now for intermediate to advanced guys, OTOH, I think this book fills in some very important specific knowledge gaps. I look at VAH as analogous to presenting the fundamental axioms of, say, Quantum Mechanics, and the MB as working out, and experimentally verifying, the most important applications of the model. The section on phone game is a great example of this. What exactly do you when you hit her voice mail anyway? The great Tyler Durden himself said that phone game was hard just starting from first principles. In MB we can see that a ton of work has gone into FT'ing and presenting solid phone game strategy. Other chapters with great specific advice were the comfort, dating, seduction, and relationship chapters. Just by looking at the number of pages devoted to these subjects in VAH, you can see that not enough was specifically known about these subjects at the time. Needless to say, given how obviously critical these subjects are, MB makes a great contribution by filling in our knowledge there. Also, the discussion on flaking was excellent. It nice summarizes what it took me forever to learn by raw experimentation: If she flakes, do nothing about it. MB presents a solid model of why to do nothing: Namely because she just did not care enough about the whole matter to big with. Proof: if she did care she won't have flaked! This is typical of great specific, practical, and concise advise that the book is made of.
The Bad
For newbies, I think the problem here is that there just isn't the right tone, emphasis, or information to shake them out of their AFC ways. The book does not go into much detail about why "nice guy" does not work. It does not mention "shit tests", frame control, negs, IODs and, other subects potentially unsavory to the mainstream in much detail. I think AFCs really need to be shocked and awed, and they need to have a better model of why what they are doing is not working if they are to change their behavior. MB is not the book to provide that. I also do not think it is a good idea to shun routines for newbies. Here the author might have forgotten that some of us newbies, were, literally completely terrified to talk to women back in our AFC days and were completely clueless as to what to talk to them about. Just surviving 1 minutes in a set was a big accomplishment in those days!
I finished reading Magic Bullets (MB) last night.

Overall, MB is a very good follow up to the VAH: IF you have already read the VAH and your game is at an intermediate to advanced level. However, I do not think MB is the best book for newbies to start with. By contrast, for intermediate to advanced players, I think that although MB is very good it is not revolutionary.

MB fills in some knowledge gaps, often in very important areas, it gives you an aha or two, but, at the same time, it will not fundamentally alter your perception of the world, the way that, something like Attraction Isn't a Choice, VAH, or The Art of Seduction does the first time you read it. MB did not leave me with the same oddly disturbed feeling that most works of genius do. The only thing that distrubed me was the fear that perhaps there are no profound theoretical breakthroughs to come in this domain of knowledge.

Now, although the specific information contained in the book is excellent, given the very high price tag ($68!) I guess I was hoping for some truly profound theoretical breakthroughs:

New deep psychological insights, or, perhaps, even a completely new model. This book does not contain those. Now, maybe that's just because there really aren't any magic bullets, and at this point, for us guys who have been in the community a year or two, the future is just about ironing out specific practical problems. Maybe. But I am skeptical. My instincts tell me that there are still new deep magical insights waiting to be discovered (remember the magic of the "neg"?) and new powerful models waiting to be created.

For me the book just did not shake up my view of the world and was not daring enough with new ideas to make it to my life changing list. Nevertheless, I still consider it a must have for all specific practical problems it provides answers too. Thus, I will give this product an 8 out of 10.
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"If you have the drive, this will give you what you need to succeed"

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As i first read through Magic Bullets i was overwhelmed with how much information was given to me and how i was going to use it, was i going to deliver this information to the target with perfect body language, is my voice tone right, am i fashionable enough, how will i remember what to say when a girl puts me on the spot with an uncomfortable question???????
Because on the first flick through, Magic Bullets gave me material for all of these subjects and more. After a lot of thought and great support from Love Systems instructors, which they provide after buying a product, i decided i would use this information one step at a time.
If you struggle with approach anxiety, or just dont know what to say then the book will give you some great lines.
I've only been in 'the game' for very little time but my confidence has shot through the roof after reading Magic Bullets.
In saying that though, if you are not going to go out and practise what is taught, all the time, without hesitation then your going to get no where. What is the use of knowing something if your not going to use it.
Some lines, routines and stories suggested will probably not suit you, maybe even most of them will not. But i can guarentee at least one will, and what more do you need then knowing how to perfect the one routine and succeed every time.
It also touches on things like "the phone game", "winging", "dates, "stripclub game".
There is something in there to suit anyone.

I have definitely not looked back on my purchase, they way i look at it is you only live once, so get in, grab it, read it, pursue it out of your comfort zone...........or go out every weekend, being jealous of the guy who has 9's and 10's hanging off him, and wondering why it cant be you. IT CAN! so grow some balls and get into it. A man values another man more who is surrounded by attractive women!
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"MB and is great!"

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Hey, finished reading MB and its great! its a book where you can go back to it whenever you need, you don't even have to read it in order although if you are an APUA then i recommend it.
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