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I stumbled across the term PUA only a few weeks ago. The more I read the more I became intrigued. Having just moved to a new city I was more than aware of my limited social circle compounded by the amount of beautiful women strutting around my area. I have never had a problem with women but they have generally been 6" 7.5s with the occasional 8.5 thrown in to boost morale. It is human nature to aspire to achieve great things, whether to dive the deepest sea or climb the highest mountain. At present, I aspire to learn the skills required to expand my social circle with beautiful people and attract and seduce 7.5'10s.

Having contacted Venusian Arts for an MPUA in the UK I was given Discovery's name. We spoke on the phone and a few days later I went to visit him for a one- on- one 3 day training camp. I must admit that I was quite apprehensive at first. I have never spent that amount of money or walked into a situation completely blind not knowing what to expect.

As soon as we met it was obvious that it was no serious business. Discovery asked pointed and specific questions to find out who I was as an individual and from there the ride into a new world began. Discovery is an outgoing, dynamic and articulate individual who has a natural ability to train people regardless of nationality, ethnicity or background. He explained and demonstrated the various stages of creating attraction, DHV, negs, gambits and building comfort in various environments using numerous methods and examples. He made the most of our limited time by moving quickly but not before a particular topic was fully understood.

There is limited benefit derived from reading how to drive a car before you have to sit behind the wheel and actually feel the road and the numerous situations that are encountered and in turn applying appropriate reactions. A simple analogy but suitable given that I was thrown into the field that night to practice what I had studied during the day. I must state that smooth delivery of a stack and microcalibration takes months so getting blown out by numerous sets is to be expected and thought of as a 'right of passage. Approaching numerous sets with a no big deal attitude' is vital.

Every time I opened a set (12 on 1st night/ 17 on 2nd night) Discovery was always there to give feedback, and as the night progressed my comfort level and ability to correct mistakes improved proportionally. By the second night I was seeing the results of the theory and practice with tangible IOIs that with Discovery's coaching were being exploited. The greatest thing about the whole experience was that the sets had no idea what was happening to them and it was all conducted in a fun, sociable atmosphere.

This is a new world for me and I have a hell of a lot to learn but with constant practice in the field and Discovery and Venusian Arts there to help, I have no doubt that some unsuspecting 10 will fall victim to the tried and proven methods of the Venusian Arts. This weekend was a life changing experience with a 100% guarantee of success in the future. Forwards ever, backwards never!

Well I just had an experience like no other. I went to Bootcamp.

The first instructor I laid eyes on was Discovery. Great avatar and even better presence I almost felt a little intimidated at first but I was to find there was no need to be. Awesome dude Knows his theory and his class room skills were professional and comprehensive.

Infield that evening he was the man of the night. He has insane crazy outrageous A2 pieces that is hard to put into words and the women were throwing themselves at this guy. Your one of a kind bro awesome meeting you. This guy is going to be a super star. Keep an eye out for him at a club near you.

I am not going to give the actual specifics of the seminar and infield because they cover the basics and plenty more. If I can put it this way these guys aren't charging enough. After attending I would say that the value of these things is twice as high as what you pay.

Meeting some really cool people there has changed my life in ways that words cannot describe.

Which leads me to the best day in my life.

After the BC had finished we were all pretty excited about having an awesome time and wanted to meet up with the guys who stuck around for the days after.

That was my bootcamp experience and if someone offered me a million dollars to trade places with me I wouldn't. Go to a bootcamp. Or even better do a one on one with these guys it is worth every penny. Start saving today do whatever you need to just get your ass to bootcamp. It has already changed my life and i am sure it will be the same for you.

Just outta bootcamp. Feeling a bit like Neo after his training days.

This is what I think.

Game without calibration is no game.

Let me backtrack.

The class was full, even though I arrived early, so I went and made friends. Talked game for a while. Enter Discovery. Great energy and wicked sense of humour. In walks Mystery. Great intro. Still thinking about it. The seminar was solid. The information was organised and potent. Was great to hear all the theories and gambits in order Lets get outta the classroom!

We arrived at the club just before 11. I left the group early walked to the back of the club (I know first set on left!) and straight into set. Fumbled the opener but the table invited me to sit down anyway. The engine was rusty, but still worked. After a while some students gathered nearby so I exited to say hello. After another couple of sets I spoke to Mrandrecharles the approach coach who was busy geeing some of the guys up. Cool guy. Good vibe. He did a great job getting guys into sets and giving on the spot feedback.

I joined him later in a 2 set hed opened. Gamed his targets friend. Got to comfort then exited. It was on, but she was a 7 and I wanted to go say hi to Discovery. I know. I should've brought her and her friend over. Next time

Discovery introduced me as a former porn star and bought a round of drinks. It looked like Discovery was gaming in fast motion. I saw him lift up a girl after about 30 seconds. Roll off. Lightbalbs started to go off So this is how it looks and feels and moves. He gave the girls just enough string as he went from geeing up students to opening sets. He manoeuvred from bar to bar to hot DJ girl. Great performer. Until you actually go infield with these guys you can't see it. Video cameras couldn't capture it. Until they have sophisticated holographic videos (I'm thinking star trek) your gonna have to go infield.

Mystery was party central. He worked from a locked in position at the bar. Warm game is different. People approached him. Lots of strange guys worshiping him, but women came as well and he worked them . At one point I was near enough to hear Mystery using sound bytes I recognised. Old material he must've been using for years. I imagined that he would've changed scripts over time. Great lesson. It's not the amount of material that you use its accessing it at the right time and performing it correctly. When the bootcamp was over he gave me some advice about scripts. He said not to get into the zone of spending too much time writing. Get out and practice. "Life moves fast".

My post was getting too long so I decided to cut down at this point "Less words"

On Monday, I was looking forward to heading out with a few of the guys before they departed. To my surprise one of those guys happened to be Mystery. Half a dozen 'guys from outta town catching up rolled into a strip club. Not ideal, but we had a great time. A few of us got to practice stripper game with HB's

Mystery glanced at a HB10 and said to me, she should be your girlfriend.
If your prepared to have 10s in your life then I recommend the bootcamp. If you want to understand calibration you'll need to go. No real way around it. How important are women to you?

ok. let me set the scene... its 5:03 am australia time. i just got home from the second day of bootcamp.. the improvement from day one to day 2 is unbelieveable.

on the first night i was veryslow and reluctant to do... anything. dispite the endless effort of discovery and mystery i just couln't get out of my own head and open sets. many excuses... is an understatement.

eventually, 2 hours or so in... i finally opened.. it did not go well.. but i opened. another 20 minutes of aa and i opened another eventually i opened 4 sets (my target number for the night... an achievement) but not after constant pushing from both discovery and mystery. discovery would have spent somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes trying to get me to open before i actually did again.

before i left i opened almost every security guy and 'guy who looked like they might know who mysetery is' in the building.. no luck, i took my achievement and left at 3.

DAY 2. today. arrived, opened within 5 minutes of getting into the place... not quite 3rd set on the left but still... atleast 115 minutes faster then the previous day.. and with a lot less provocation...from there... sets opened... alot.. there was no, whats my opener.. i had 2... i used both. my goal tonight was to open 4 sets again... that was done within hour 1.

though mistakes were still made.. and looking back, i know what SHOULD have been done.. at one point i heard someone tell her target friend "i think he's gaming" so i said what needed to be said and ejected rather than asking her who was gaming, since i wasn't in high heels and a short skirts. or words to that effect.. as an appropriate response would have been.

i did burn out after a coupe of hours.. but i didn't stop doing what discovery had mentioned the night before. i tried to get back into state but it wouldn't be.. still i was happy with what i'd done... what the guys helped me to do..

after this i was still content to continue trying to get into state so when everyone bounced at close (3am or so) i was all for it for about 20 minutes. as i was waiting for the guys i was leaving with i noticed a single, just to my right. i opened her with "hi... errrr... is this the ONLY place to go... at this time of night?" i'm not entirely sure why... but this set FLEW open, i decided to just talk.. no canned material.. just talk... (this was not a concious decision, it just happened) after about 2 minutes i noticed i had not locked in.. so i leaned back against a wall chat was had by all... then her boyfriend came.... and took her away.... i left that place on a high note... and here i am..

all in all.. i'm super happy with the outcome of the weekend and, recommend the process to..... everyone. it helped me turn from RANK amature.. into someone that is actually willing to open. i will say that i spent more time with discovery than mystery over the 2 infield nights, but that is not really a bad thing since SO many people want to talk to him it's really hard to listen to what he has to say without interruption.. that's the only real down side... and it's hardly anyone's FAULT.

i would have liked to go to the breakout today... but just can't.

This bootcamp was a mind-blowing, life changing, revolutionary experience.

I'm a decent looking guy with decent social skills living in Vegas. I generally sarge alone but club make-outs, number closes, f-closes are pretty easy. The problem, they are all 6's, 7's and a few 8's. My game is simple, scour the club for the girls that find me attractive, approach, don't say anything stupid, make a joke or two, go sexual and depending on logistics, number close or ONS.

I am tired of club make-outs and ONS with women I'm not really interested in, I want consistent stream of 9's and 10's to add to my social circle so I can find a great girl. My solution try out a bootcamp to see if I could learn and implement the structure so I could improve my social circle mastery.

It was absolutely the best investment I've ever made.


It was absolutely one of the best weekends of my life. All of the VA guys are awesome. I didn't write this review to convince you to go to a bootcamp, I wrote it so I could document my experience. This is for all of my brothers who were at the camp with me. Now that we are back at home, don't forget what is possible. Get off your ass and get back infield and keep working on this stuff.

When i first found out about the venusian arts taking me a wail to decide weather it was worth it to go on a boot camp but i came to the decision that i wanted to learn this all the way. When i went i was more than well impressed by what i experienced and having the opportunity to see this done how it was intended. what i mean by this is you can vary well learn this stuff on you own but to see it in action actually give you an real life reference experience about what they intend to get across in books and forums, unfortunately words in books are only labels to actions or experiences that others have had and through written and verbal communication they try to get theories and models of thought across to others. the real value that comes from going to a boot camp is the opportunity to model and assimilate all that they are doing through experience literally by raw experience and though practice you can attain similar if not the same results of what is intended in books and forums if not your own perception of it. this is what they call in NLP modeling and dont let the label NLP scare you it is just another label to taking the natural patterns in life and putting them into a model. this is a natural process children do it all the time! To model the masters...doing what you literally thus far have only dreamed of, gives you privilege to information that can rarely be conveyed through the written word. there is a definite benefit for anyone really interested in learning this. jezz haha with all that mumbo jumbo aside dudes this was an awsome bootcamp! you will well be impresesd, so dont hesitate to jump in the deep end and emers youself in this vast, amount of information that you are now privaledged too.

Well it's been a few weeks since the bootcamp, I figure it's about bloody time I write a review.

In a word, it was mind expanding, mind blowing and one of the best experiences of my life!! (oh wait that's more than one word, oh well)

...everyone on the VA staff was amazingly helpful and it was truely eye opening to see the instructors in action. If you're thinking about doing a boot camp just do it! I mean, when you're lying on your death bed are you going to think "wow, I'm really glad I saved those 3 G's I would have spent on the boot camp?" OR are you going to say "damn that boot camp was the changing point in my life?" What's worth more, a couple of bucks or an experience of a lifetime?

Apart from meeting some awesome like-minded guys, my first major highlight was when Mystery walked through the door of the seminar itself. Although I got to spend more time with him as the boot camp went on and would now call him (and Matador et al) a friend, at that moment, I was like a little girl at a backstreet boys concert (without the screaming and crying). The man has a lot of presence and I remember looking forward to shaking his hand.

The seminar was very intense in the best kind of way. It hit the jugular from the get go and didnt stop hitting it period. The talks started from a very zoomed out perspective of the universe and our place in it. It was more than a little abstract, but completely made sense. The universe presents...

28 thousand... and something. - Apparently the average life span of a human being in days. Mystery brought this up a few times, one of which was right before the doors were opened and somebody walked in without knocking. That someone, was James Matador.

Matador can talk. He talks loud, deep and for long. And if he werent so interesting and informative, I might have got annoyed. His first major point was that underneath God, we are all equal. When we are babies, we're very close to God, and that social conditioning is what ultimately renders some of us with a feeling that we are not worthy of certain women. This point stuck with me.

For fear of this review becoming a moment by moment commentary, im going to skip most of the actual seminar under the justification that you should book one to get the full experience. I will say that before we went out sarging, we were given some practical exercises to prepare us for our night. The man who arranged and oversaw this was Discovery.

Discovery is surely englands best. He is the Tim Henman of pick up, only he is actually successful. His key strength is delivery, and he makes sure you understand how important it is. Under his guidance, we began practising our delivery with openings and DHV stories on eachother. It felt a bit awkward at first, but the bootcamp is a shortlived experience. I know I made sure to get into the right frame of mind very quickly, although I cant speak for everyone. It was good practice. We all began to internalise our openers and DHV stories etc. It prepared us for what would be an awesome first night out.

Once again, I have to leave out so much detail. In fact I want you to read this and what ever rating you conclude based on this review, add another 2 points. Write them off as "Highlights missed points" if you must. The major memory I have from my first night is how small my approach anxiety was. With Mystery, Matador and Discovery there, you feel turbo-charged. I lost count of how many sets I opened, but it was in the twenties. Watching Mystery and Matador sarge has also been lasered into my brain. All Im going to say is Wow.

After 4 hours solid sleep, I woke up at around 11 am. I had definitely got my moneys worth so far.

Day 2 saw us talk about the holes in our game. We then listed our "Stop, Start and Continues". Mystery and Matador came in and ran through the game from start to finish. It was very polished and easy to digest. A lot of us ran out of paper. I had read the game, and the mystery method before the seminar. I had even done research online and I still learnt a whole lot of new stuff. There were some definite gems in there, which Im glad I noted down.

After more much needed practice, lead by Discovery, we were ready for night 2.

Once again, I must stress that the VIP rooms which were booked for us on both nights are mundane details compared to the experience of the night itself. I think we were all a lot more successful on our second night. I once again opened around 20 sets. I watched and learned from the best in the world and if I had to guess, I would say my game has improved tenfold. The highlight was a HB9 kiss close and 4 number closes. To finish off I was lucky enough to see how to deal with AMOGs in action. Discovery and his girlfriend joined me at a table set I had opened, which had in its group a rather talkative AMOG. While he gave me advice ("initiate kino and DHV"), he handled the AMOG. "Tell us something interesting now" he said, before turning away and continuing a conversation with the relaxed guy of the group. The Amog took a long time to ponder and jumped straight through the hoop. Long story short, he simply ended up looking like a fool. I dont like people to be unhappy, but this guy really did do it to himself.

The entire night was awesome. Not only for growth and progression, but also just plain fun. I met loads of new people (Not only girls), and the group really bonded. Some good friendships came out of this weekend. Perhaps an under-rated aspect of these bootcamps. One last highlight was a set I opened which had a HB9. She was a spanish girl (With blonde hair strangely enough) who must have thrown close to 10 IOIs. Ive had girls throw themselves at me, but they have usually been ugly girls (sorry to be crass - All girls are beautiful in their own way, but some are more conventionally beautiful) - Anyway, the HB9 was very attracted until I threw a neg at the wrong moment. She was initiating kino and talking to me with a lot of energy, while I was pretending to wave to a friend. I then said "shhh"... Fatal error. I have never seen a girl turn off that quickly. Her expression dropped and she stormed off angrily. I can look back on that now and smile, but at the time, it was hard to see it as the pinnacle step in my learning curve that it was. Spanish babe, where ever you are, Im sorry

The luck bastards who indulged in the Sunday breakout day can take it from here, but I unfortunately only had enough spare change for the seminar and in-field training. I have decided to be a rich person though, so I can experience the whole nine yards in future. In the end, the experience I had at the bootcamp was off the charts. I am a man of understatment, but Mystery, Matador and the gang have made it difficult to review the experience without emphasizing repeatedly how brilliant it was. The bottom line is, look, Im not a qualified judge, but in my humble opinion, the bootcamp gets 10 out of 10.

At this point, I must cash in the old chips, and leave the rest to your imagination. Coaches, once again, thanks.

This has been my second bootcamp with Mystery. I especially liked this one because it was a small group of 7 or 8 and I got alot of personal attention from both Mystery and Matador. My sticking point has been mostly in comfort building, and Mystery really gave some good advice on story telling and comfort routines. He also taught us a couple magic tricks on the side. By the third night, I could easily open girls, and carried on conversation with them for 45min inside a loud club. Mystery also helped me form my Identity which was a sticking point for me. All in all it opened my eyes, I really enjoyed it, and would recommend it to anyone man as a life changing event ...

Pickup isn't like learning to read dry medical texts or like driving a car or fixing computers it is some crazy, every moment should or can be teaching you something kinda deal man.

I went in for Dallas and I found out that we had a 3rd NIGHT OUT WITH THE TWO [GUYS]

Wow I felt like a dunce for not getting more Master level training @ LA, Hawaii was certainly excellent but having 2!!! guys constantly opening/in sets like they're never going to live another day in their life or ever have any regrets (like my writing style I am a stimulation junkie)....wow and just about constant good state they were trying to talk to everyone and keep the group and individual student's personal state up and address issues and DEMO DEMO DEMO ..!! I also understood a bit more of what was up because I had my previous in-field experience, but I wasn't going to ask them too many questions on their fun night out as I didn't pay for Master level training like the other guys did. In August I'm going to sell my soul for a candy bar and $4k so I can be part of team VA proper out there at the NY conference if I can't plain just save up by then.

The only way to really improve well is to work your ass off, respond to those AIs talk to someone in the area and start working your way around..try to remember exactly what you were saying/doing, how she responded, and if you had anything go down that you were totally like "Ok I do this instead next time for sure not maybe".. certainly PIMPIN AINT EZ-E

I wanted to thank everyone who came out y'all were a pretty laid back and fun bunch of guys it really worked out to have a cozier workshop too really annoyed I missed day one due to NORTHWEST!!!!!! (Don't fly them their customer service dept. LIES..plug over) but hellyeah man it was a blast.

Mystery was even cool enough to leave just about as much shrimp over as he snagged from my deal but we had to run haha. Hey Mike if you're out there and sarging bro holler, I am sure you're doing just fine but I'll happily buy you a beer and listen to a good story. Hey there was this guy who was practicing lines with me I think I deleted your number by mistake if you don't have a wing atm hit me up I may be travelling the States a little. Awesome that you improved so much after day 2!!!

P.S. no seriously, Matador and Mystery are like Batman and Robin team of pickup ownage coolness except they're both Batman.