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Venusian Arts Bootcamp
Coaching & Mentoring
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"The Last Realistic Option"

Overall rating 
 
9.9
Effectiveness 
 
10.0
Ease of Implementation 
 
10.0
Innovativeness 
 
9.0
Packaging/ Customer Service 
 
10.0
Value for Money 
 
10.0
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Coaching/ Bootcamps Information

Instructor(s) for Coaching:
  • Discovery
  • Mystery (Erik von Markovik)
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2009
First, you need a quick background about me. I never had much luck with women in high school and college. But I did find a relationship that lasted a long time, and I stayed with it for the wrong reasons. In the last year and a half my father died, my 4 year fianc left me, I got involved with a black scorpion of a woman who caused all manner of drama and discontent. I then moved to a small town with no friends to get work after graduating college. I was depressed, lonely, and extremely close to taking myself out. I had a suicide note and a loaded gun. When I went out, I didn't know how to act or have a good time. I share this, because I tried several things to find relief. None of them has helped like this training did. I came back from the brink, and I don't say that lightly. I considered this the last realistic option for taking control of my life and getting real change. Therapy, pills, all that nonsense doesn't fix loneliness or perceived lack of value.

Day 1: Seminar
The seminar was outstanding by Mystery, he really addresses dealing with Approach Anxiety and breaking through your limiting perceptions. I can't exactly explain his method for this, but it involves a basic understanding of the universe and metaphysical presence...sort of! One great thing about him is I never once felt like I was treated as a lesser person or as someone with lower value. He is extremely genuine towards everyone I saw him interact with and really made me feel like one of the guys in class and field. Read the Mystery method before attending, it's a great introduction to the material. The seminar will take you deeper into it and show a practical breakdown of the Method. You can also Wikipedia the "Mystery Method" so you aren't completely foreign to the material when you walk in.

Day 1: In-Field (highlights)
This was a blast; our goal was to get girls over to the VIP table. I succeeded in the first 20 minutes on my second approach. Of course I got lost and didn't know what to do with her after that. She got bored and wandered away! My coach was Derby; he has a really elegant way of telling you things. I will never forget the "Doggy Style" discussion......yeah; I don't lean into sets anymore after that. Thanks man, still cracks me up! For me the point of day 1 in field is to get blown out... if your coach points and says "open...don't hesitate, don't think about it, and just go. Follow that simple rule and you will get your money's worth. You will get double the feedback, one from the set if you hang around enough, and one from your coach. If you get beyond opening... Awesome, they will give you feedback on that just as good. But open, open, open, without fear of remorse. I could write pages about what I learned that night. I promise you will wake up the next morning and have a rush of realizations rivaled only by a freshly enlightened monk.


Day 2: Seminar
I'm not going into a huge explanation about this day, but it's a continuation on the foundation you built from day one and was very worthwhile and enjoyable.


Day 2: In Field (highlights)
This was a frustrating but very important night for me. More in depth development of opening techniques and tools, however my calibration was way off. I remember over-Negging a set and getting a serious blow out. I felt pretty bad over it actually, not for myself but for the girl. I opened lots of sets, and actually... got opened myself quite a few times by cute Asian girls! My coach was Kosmo, and he is awesome. The most important lesson that night was when he got a girl to be my pivot for a few sets. Let me tell you, I have even considered hiring cute starving college girls for a couple hours for like $50 when I go sarging in my small town. Opening a set with a girl on your arms makes everything super easy. To top it off, if the set goes bad you get feedback from the set, and feedback from the girl about what you botched! My pivot was a good looking Cougar and her feedback was quality. I simply ran out of material and was so focused on "running game" I didn't mesh with the set and just have a good time while casually injecting DHV's. Again, when you wake up the next morning your brain has downloaded a ton of data and you start having one realization after another. Another coach named Brandon, who also rocks. Gave me a fun and fairly risky opener while I was passing then sent me in on an eight set. Worked like a charm, this girl was a super cute Asian. Sadly, we had to leave due to the club closing and I totally bungled getting any of them to bounce to our after-party. Of course, now I realize I jumped from A2 right into C1 and also invited them in a very AFC non-suave sort of way.

Day 3: Seminar
If you have Discovery at your camp ... take the day game seminar. Sell a child if you must, panhandle in the street, or sleep with a really, really unattractive woman for pay. But take Discovery's day game class. It is absolutely awesome, the tips and tricks you get for the day are really slick and invaluable. I am just dying to get all my information in my laptop and hit up a coffee shop with my phone off. Those last sentences won't make sense without the day game class. I'm laughing just thinking about them.

Day 3: In-Field: (read this if you read nothing else)
I hired Kosmo for the night. What I didn't expect was Mystery and Discovery had their personal hires back out for that Sunday evening. These guys are an amazing force together, and Kosmo is a rocking coach. Within 20 minutes they took over the bar, and had all the best looking girls on their arms. We were having a blast. Discovery was walking around with a big cigar in hand and the bouncers were treating us all like best friends. Listening to Kosmo I kiss closed a girl right when we got there, then ended up grabbing an obstacle from Discovery that I F-Closed later that night, again under Kosmo's direction. These guys gave me a camera which instantly made me popular. At one point Mystery jumped in and taught me a lesson about rolling off at the appropriate times. These guys are just awesome to spend an evening with. I was essentially one of the boys, Mystery at one point thought he accidently grabbed a target of mine and tried to apologize! Every one of these men is extremely friendly and personable. Not once did I feel like the "tag-along" or the "loser." I was admittedly star struck being able to hang out with Kosmo and Mystery. They made me feel like I had known them for years. If I had the money and wasn't obligated for the next few months by the military, I would sign up for their coaching training.

A few things I feel compelled to mention:

1) Be thankful for this training, and understand its hard work to get good at. There is no magic pill, TRUST what you learn.

2) Don't think just because a coach wasn't on "The Pickup Artist" that they are any lesser a wealth of knowledge or skilled than the guys on the show. Discovery is awesome and I can't wait to meet Lovedrop someday.

3) Its expensive yes, I ran up a credit card. What has the car, house, and entertainment center, done for you really? I had a friend tell me this training was too expensive while we were riding in his $50,000 car. The car wasn't getting him any girls or improving his social skills.

4) After you complete this training, go out with one of your "Natural" friends. You will get a huge appreciation for everything you learned watching them fumble about blowing up the room. My buddy that I used to think was smooth, just gets drunk and showcases his muscles. Top Notch Game there!

I would like to thanks Mystery, Discovery, and especially Kosmo for that life changing evening. Mystery, thanks for the awesome PUA name! I'm going to have some fun in-field using my unique eye.
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