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"I Could Finally Get on with the Rest of My Life"

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10.0
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10.0
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10.0
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10.0
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10.0
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Instructor(s) for Coaching:
BadBoy
Date Program Took Place:
January 01, 2006
My background is the usual AFC horror story. I was Mr Nice Guy at university and girls could see me coming a mile away. Result: 15 years of marriage and a slow road to spiritual suicide (despite her being a great woman). I knew something wasn't right from the start. I felt like a man and wanted to be a man but I was totally a victim of social programming and had been turned into a eunuch. It took me 15 years to grow my balls back and leave. That was
6 years ago - however, I had much to learn and no one around to teach me. I was completely clueless. Girls around me were into me when I was just being natural but as soon as I wanted to make a move it was back into Mr Nice Guy and instant turn-off for them. After another LTR that lasted 2 years I discovered speed dating. I thought there must be a way to systematically improve my seduction skills so I went out to get as much experience as possible. I went on about 300 speed dates over a year and tried to learn everything I could about dating. I even maintained a database on who was who, who I was seeing when, what I did right, what I did wrong and so on.
This was good and my skills improved significantly to the point where there was no shortage of women but very few if any of them turned me on. This makes sense right? If you are a HB 8+, chances are you don't need to go speed dating to find a date! I wanted to be able to get the hot girls that I could see all around me in this country. I even started experimenting with direct approach before I even knew such a thing existed (with good results but I didn't persist - social programming is a tough thing to crack - I felt too awkward doing it) . Then I came across an article on The Game and had to get hold of a copy. Next thing I know, I discover the community and my eyes lit up. There are guys out there doing this?
As soon as I found out about the Badboy workshops, I knew they were for me.
It wasn't a question of indirect versus direct - they just had a natural appeal. It sounded like so much fun that even if you didn't get the girl, you would still end up having a blast. So I signed up for the earliest one I could make, and before I knew it, the time had flown by and I was on my way to Amsterdam for the sole purpose of taking this workshop. Yes I was scared - reading about something doesn't prepare you for the reality - but I since learned from Badboy that it wasn't fear - it was adrenalin. He was right.

The Aftermath
Seeing BB in action was worth it. I think the most important thing I learned on the workshop was when BB said that it's all about controlling the frame of the situation. By that I mean having complete faith and confidence in yourself and not being fazed by anything the girl says or does. Even that's not it. Maybe the best example I can think of is Don Juan de Marco. In that film, Johnny Depp's character, who is originally judged as suffering from a delusion (he thinks he's Don Juan), has such a strong frame that eventually even his psychiatrist is sucked into it. And here's the bizarre part. By having such a strong frame, you actually make your belief a reality. Sounds crazy and unbelievable - but it's true. Actually, I still haven't described it correctly. Watching BB, you can see how having the right frame can also put the girl into a trance. Reading about it is one thing. Seeing it for yourself is another.
Just an example of how powerful this stuff is. I'm sitting on a bench the day after the workshop enjoying some time in Amsterdam to myself. While I'm there I think to myself - might as well practise some alpha body language.
So I'm virtually sprawled over this bench, in the meantime talking to the guy on the bench next to me. (I talk to anyone and everyone now. In lines, on the tram, in cafes, wherever. It keeps approach anxiety at bay, I use a gazillion different natural openers for each situation and I get to practise my story-telling skills.) The next thing I know is, this HB7.5/24 sits down next to me. 5 minutes later she's sharing her joint with me. 25 minutes later she has to go but not before giving me her card. I didn't even ask for it!
Criticisms? I don't really have any. BB clearly has a product that has been honed and refined through experience. I could have wished to be pushed into more sets (I did about 45 over the entire workshop) but then I realized that the rate limiting step in this was not Badboy but me. The other criticism, which is not really a criticism is that 4 days is not enough. Yes, you pretty much get taught about 90% of the material that BB says is going to be covered but without the relevant experience, you can't make use of it. You therefore need to go, practise it, make some mistakes of your own and then get more light bulbs going off in your head. Aha! Now I know what BB is talking about. BB has been practising this for more years then there are days in the workshop. I would have liked to have gotten a kiss close but I realized that this is down to me and not BB and clearly I wasn't ready for it at my current level of development. The upshot? I think I will need to get at least a few more months of solid practice in before signing up for the Advanced Individualized Workshop.
Look. This is not a panacea. You can't expect to go in there an AFC and come out as Don Juan and Casanova rolled into one. What the whole BB experience has shown me is what is possible, how it's done and most importantly, how I can do it myself, all in a way that feels 100% natural. As with all workshops of any kind, however, once you've left the environment where someone else is imposing the external discipline, you risk falling back to where you were before. This was a big concern of mine. Now that BB has gone and the buzz has worn off, will what I've learned stick? The next day I was walking the streets of Amsterdam and bump into a fellow workshop attendee.
We go for a coffee before he catches a train back to Germany. And you know what? I realize I'm starting to think like a PUA. We walk in and I choose the table next to a 2-set. Halfway into my coffee I open up with a natural opener. I realize now that opening is really easy and the best cure for approach anxiety is action. A few minutes later we are both joining these two hotties at their table. A few minutes after that I'm reading the palm of the Russian HB8.5/17. Since then I've been visiting family in the States - not exactly the most conducive environment for an aspiring PUA (being with family, not being in Ameria that is). At one point though I couldn't resist and had to open the HB7.5/24 on the bench next to me in Minneapolis. Yep, works with American girls too. Have attraction, IOI's, building rapport and ... it's time to eject as my 3 kids and ex-wife are approaching! Having said that I can see that I've become rusty in these last few weeks. It'll be time to dust off the cobwebs again as soon as I'm back in South Africa.
Permanent and lasting change isn't going to come from attending workshops.
It's going to come from more of the same that got you in the workshop in the first place i.e. desire, discipline and not a small measure of balls. If this sounds like a lot of effort, it is. But it's also a lot of fun. That's where the life is.
I met a great bunch of guys (including my fellow students as well as workshop instructors), I had a great time, I had a life-altering experience.
BB is a great guy and you feel like he's been your friend since you were kids. All in all, I have to say (and I've checked this with myself to make sure I'm not exaggerating)...
This is the best money I've ever spent. On anything. Ever.
I don't know about the rest of you guys out there, but if I stopped to note down how much time I've spent thinking, talking and fantasizing about women I'm not having in my life, I'm sure it would consume almost half my waking hours. When I think about the amount of time, money and energy I've put into this, I feel sick. Even disgusted. What a waste! Not only does it sap your productivity but it ends up derailing your life. Ironically, I came on the workshop because I realized that there are other things in life besides women - therefore getting this sorted out meant that I could finally get on with the rest of my life. Which, after this workshop, is exactly what I intend to do.
Originally posted on the Attraction Forums. Reproduced with permission.
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