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Where should I start on how horrible this workshop was. Well lets say where I was before hand. I was getting attraction and interest very regularly, I say
this is due to a revamping my style to sexy stereotyping and simple amount of field time(following the same routine stack, so I can predictably see where my SP's are). I basically got to a point where theyd want to go in comfort but I wasn't going kino and comfort so eventually they would leave. I knew this going in and I told the instructors that this is what I wanted to fix. Therefore, They gave me a routine I was already using. What really bugged me, well actually a lot of things, but it had to do with the in field portion. The seminar was decent in that you could see little things you couldnt over an audio, but the in field part of the workshop, the part I payed thousands of dollars for, was god awful. This workshop was filled up, and the personal attention sucked! I wanted them to watch my sets and tell me what to fix so I could work on it when I went home. You know how much they watched? almost none. I would go in set in whole foods and glenn literally only looked over for a second. 90 percent of the time the instructor wasnt even THERE! Hed say "go do that set ill watch" and then he disappears completely to another floor, drinking a coffee. I even heard glenn said "id so much rather not be here right now."

When I went into the workshop, I went in the mindset that these guys are masters and are way better than me, and I have payed a lot of money, therefore I should believe whatever they tell me and do whatever they say, to get the most out of it. I mean if IM paying THEM all this money, then they MUST KNOW what theyre doing right? With this mindset(which I think is very healthy in this case), I was blinded to the shit they pulled. These guys are not master instructors or master pua's, they are masters at framing situations to make them look good. Even my friend, Swift, who used to work for venusian arts, told me it was going on, but I didnt want to believe him since I was in the middle of the workshop. At the end of the workshop they ended up blame shifting, which is exactly what swift predicted they would do. They go "oh man you just have an inner game problem, thats what it is." And when I asked how to fix it they talk in CIRCLES! They never actually come to a conclusion. They NEVER gave me an answer. I mean if they can not demonstrate how to pickup with outer game, they should atleast give me some inner game resources. Eventually he comes up with the silver bullet I had payed 2000$ to hear: "Try Tony Robbins!" .....

Are there any legit teachers out there? From now on I will do a more hardcore research and only do a 1on1 with someone, if I decide to take workshop again. I would recommend a 1on1 in general no matter what company you take, group workshops are just not functional. I would NOT skimp. And whatever you do, DONT take a workshop from Glenn.

OK, this is review is long overdue. I took the workshop late January, and started the review shortly afterward, but never finished it. This is my second attempt to post to the review section in masf; the first was lost in the void. There's an LR that follows from this, "LR: Shocker day at the mall." Here goes:

I had been involved with the community a bit over a year by January, but had been out of commission and stagnating for more time than I had actually been sarging and improving. I found myself very rusty with newfound approach anxiety. My skill level is about intermediate. Brad P. came to Dallas in late January 2007, and I thought the 1-day intensive workshop would be just the kickstart I needed.

Brad hosted a meet 'n greet seminar and a club game seminar the Friday before the workshop. Fresh material is relatively uncommon in the community nowadays, so I was pleasantly surprised to hear Brad explain his "shocker" opener, as well as his take on clubs and club game. OK, so an opener is no big deal--it just gets you in set. Brad's "shocker", however, is a multitasker. It's fun, is capable of conveying high value and social awareness, is entertaining, and also feels a little more natural than the all-too-common opinion openers. Brad explains this in detail in the free seminar, and also in his e-book.

I've heard other PUAs argue that looks are not important for those with good game. Brad's philosophy is that you shouldn't start out digging yourself out of a hole if you don't need to. Good style conveys social awareness and value, and will help to open up sets. This makes great sense.

The club game seminar was really enlightening and really new. I had already observed Asian Playboy expertly put these principles into practice. Brad really spells it out for the rest of us, and provides a system that seems pretty straightforward and doable. It became clear to me, though, that advanced club game will probably not be my thing.

The 1 day workshop started Saturday morning in the boardroom of Brad's motel. There were three students, each of us with different skills and needs. We started out by talking about what we wanted to get out of the workshop. He is very flexible and will tailor the workshop to the students' needs. Since none of us were able to hit his fashion seminar scheduled for Sunday, we decided that we'd sacrifice (or combine) a portion of the Day Game portion for a mini fashion makeover. We discussed various principles including opening strategies (including each student selecting and delivering openers), the Horse-girl opener, some day-game issues, social value (that you bring to the girl), and fashion.

We hit mall#1, which, for some reason, was target poor. He had each one of us walk, commented on body language. There really were really very few sets to open, so we headed to mall#2, where he did the fashion makeover. He determined that my best bet was to go with the "well-dressed, normal" stereotype. We found a (not very expensive) jacket to update my look. He determined my jeans were too loose, so I spent some time looking for a new pair while he helped out another student. As I worked my way down the jean sizes, he gave his seal of approval on one. Dubious, I asked a couple of girls near the fitting room, and got the thumbs up. Another student got an even more comprehensive makeover, including a new hairstyle, new pants, shirt, jacket. Brad also suggested that the hat that student was wearing could be good, with the right stereotype, but stressed the need for congruence. The lucky third student needed no real tweaking, but got a cool T-shirt anyway. I didn't bother opening any sets while not directly observed by Brad. I saw the other students open a couple of sets. Brad had requested that we not give each other any feedback or critique during the workshop; not only because we paid for his advice, but because he prefers to dispence certain amounts of information at a time, and in a certain order. He has some background in education, and realizes that too much information is sometimes detrimental; he prefers to guide his students using just the right instruction at the right time to foster real insight rather than rote behaviors.

After a dinner break, some last-minute makeover points, including putting shiny stuff in my hair. We hit a club district where he sent each of us into several sets. The pickings were fairly slim here, HB-wise. Most of the cuter girls at multiple clubs were married. One guy tried to fight Brad after the guy's new wife was clearly very flirty. I also watched Brad get a hot (and busy) bartender's number within about 60 seconds of approaching the bar.

Finally, in search of better targets, we hit the final venue, which was target rich. As we passed trough a bar area, one mixed set engaged Brad (I didn't see, but think someone opened him on his T-shirt) This was a mixed set with at least 2 girls and 1 guy. Two of them were together, and fed Brad some info which he used to game the third girl, who not only was one of the hottest girls in the bar, but also a high value professional. Over no more than 5 minutes, he had her starry-eyed. The basic structure involved initially ignoring her while talking to the other two (and determining who was with who), getting some information which he turned into a fun "mind-reading" game/joke. When some classic crooner song started playing, he spun her around and danced with her, singing the words with her while maintaining eye contact. Looking at her, I could tell this was probably the highlight of her month. Shortly after, he left the set only because he had 3 students to coach. He watched each of us in more sets, joining one of my sets as I engaged a target. Afterwards, as we were leaving at 2am, I could see his hottie from the earlier set craning her neck to follow him as he moved through the room. Her male friend finally chased him down for her. Brad deftly got the number, and we headed out to the critique session.

Over a late-night breakfast, he discussed with each of us his observations. You can really tell he has some counseling and educational background. He is a pretty astute observer, and seemed pretty good at making constructive criticism. Ultimately, he summarized with a couple of major points and assignments per student. For my part, he suggested I work on projecting less of a "safe" image. For another student, he suggested getting really fluid with a routine stack for ready use in the field. For the third, he had much more extensive advice, spanning inner game, identity building, posture, calibration, fashion, target selection, and more.

Would I recommend a Brad P program? Definitely. Brad P is really a pro, and this is reflected at every level. He knows his stuff, and can prove it in the field. He will try to figure out where you are, and give you just the right advice to move you on the path. I saw him deliver difficult but very pertinent advice in a respectful, constructive, and positive way. No less important, but also a measure of a pro, you can count on him to be on time, to focus on you, and to give you all the time and instruction you paid for.

I've been on a couple of MM/LS bootcamps, so I thought that I was pretty solid with most of the material out there... this bootcamp/workshop totally changed my perspective on game and introduced me to a whole new world and style of game (seeing a 1 min. f-close right before your eyes will do that).

Structure: Brad P.'s workshop is 3/4 in-field training and 1/4 theory, which was beneficial to me as I have gone on other bootcamps before, and just needed training honing my in-field skills.

... I think that my previous bootcamps gave me a solid technique, but I feel that before I was a bit robotic (running opinion openers, escalating, comfort in 7 hours)... Brad P.'s workshop puts "flesh" onto your technique. A feel significantly more natural now when I'm running game and routines. Importantly, I'm having alot more fun now when doing game (because of Brad's "natural" cocky funny, naturally high value style of game) and have lost my previous wing dependancy. Thanks Brad.

I'm from Spain and i was planning to visit some friends in different cities of USA, so i just decided to shoot two birds in one shot and do the bootcamp. My personal point of being in a bootcamp was the lack of naturals in the city i'm from. I just couldn't find any of them. So i wanted to see what's possible and i wasn't dissapointed. These guys are really great. We had Brad, Gabriel and Magic as our coaches. The biggest thing i discovered is that you need to be with people who have a great and positive energy around them when you go out sarging and that's exactly what these guys have. They seemed to be happy and have fun all the time. And when you got this kind of people around you it's much easier to approach.

Just to tell you that the stuff that amazed me was, for example, the fact that Gabriel almost had a threesome in the first night we went out. The first girl he takled to, was completely into him and he was reading her friend for the threesome. I'm sure that if he hadn't the coaching thig that night and could be able to dedicate more time to those girls, he'd have slept with two hot bodies next to him

Brad, well, what i saw Brad doing, was almost unbelievable!! After like 3 minutes of talking with a girl, he sitted her on his lap and started fingering her pussy in the middle of the nightclub and if there weren't a bouncer near the WC door, he'd had his dick socked by a sweet lil 20 y/o girl right there!!

Magic, this guy, i must say, helped me more than anyone. First of all, he's just a really great person. Because of the reasons i don't wanna bother you, after the night in the field in Hollywood, i had to go to Newport Beach, where i had my bed waiting for me. So, Magic kindly let me stay in his place for that night. It was a big favor, thanx to him i saved 140 $ for taxi!
But speaking sargingwise, he really helped me with my daygame. I never did the day game before. I just assumed that if you want to pick up chicks, there are night clubs for this purpose. I was wrong big time!!
After the Magic's incredible demo, where he approached and attracted a married chic, i did my first approach and it went really great, the girl i approached turned out to be an exotic dancer and we ended up having an instant date, right there!!
The guy told me one thing none of my friends in all my life could tell me. He was the only heterosexual person who told me that i was goodlooking and that i just had to relax approaching girls, because most of the time they'll be attracted to me, the only thing i had to do it's not to screw things up!! Believe me, when a guy, who knows you for only one day and who's not gay tells you this, it's like a 3 tons stone falling off of your back!!! I know it's not a new skill that i've learned, but in my case it's really helped me to combat my AA. I still have it, but much much lesser.

So, wraping up guys, if you want to do a bootcamp and see how this stuff is done, i'd really advise you to do it with these 3 guys. But remember, they'll show you incredible stuff, they'll convince you with their demos that 99% of what you thought was impossible, is actually possible. They'll give you a ton of material to work with, they'll tell you what your sticking points are and how to get rid of them....
BUT, it's YOU and only YOU who has to actually DO it, They won't do it for you!!


Thank you guys, the three of you really openned my eyes!!!

Probably the best part of attending Brad's workshop is his unpretentious and down to earth personality. He's good and knows it, but doesn't let that get to his head. He is eager to share his knowledge, and not once hesitated or blew us off when we pulled him aside to have him explain in more details or asked for 1 on 1 advice.

There was a 3rd day - that I wish I had attended but had to get back to work. I'm kicking myself in the ass about it.
To sum up the whole weekend - if you have sky dived, this is way more exhilarating. The material I took home from learning from Brad is so extremely valuable and I am still in the process of internalizing it and trying to use it daily.

I HIGHLY recommend this workshop to anyone - even with pua experience. But ESPECIALLY newbies - Brad knows how to motivate and push you to break approach anxiety without being a dick. That's important.

To say the least, the brad p boot camp was one life experience that was filled with positivity in every way.
More importantly, it was an opportunity and a mind to really look back at myself, my insecurities and my wrong beliefs.

I couldnt be happier with myself for the decision to take this bootcamp.
it is just so many subtle things that I learned during the weekend that i put the most value on and seeing it done right in front of me gave me a destination to reach.
I hope in about a year or two, I look back to this weekend and say to myself and know myself that im an awesome guy.

So I was able to get a night of workshop with Jake P. in the recent past. I had seen him in random social situations with women, and was able to get him to give a few pointers, but never could I expect what I saw the first night I went into the field with him.

We started out at his place, and the class began. It started with a breakdown of fashion. What is sexy. Accessories. Undershirts. Shoes. Hair. Jeans. Belts. Etc. I had thought before that only metro or gay guys worry about these kinds of things. It's not about being the most fashionable or loud, it's about being well put together. A look that is your unique, sexual, and visual advantage. He went over focal points of a look. This then led to "the walk."

"The walk" was one of the most specific things we learned other than shit tests and our scripted openers to work on for the night. From head position, eye position, chin, arm sway, legs, hips, and the look. I went from a guy with average posture and average eye contact to a dominant postured, chin up, I move for nothing kind of guy.

We then went over shit tests, openers, frame control, kino, and closing. He had us stick to 2 specific openers so that he could give proper feedback on delivery, voice tone, etc. He then gave my buddy and I each condoms, warning us "don't be surprised when this stuff works. You are going to get women attracted to you. If you have to go somewhere to do whatever, no problem. Just text me later when or if you need a ride later." With that, we were off. Jake challenged us to begin opening as soon as we entered the bar. It was nerve-wracking, but quickly built confidence. But this review isn't about me, so back to Jake...

Watching Jake demo was a work of art. I had had experiences in the past with PUA's that were a little emotionally unstable, or had a large chip on their shoulder and were trying to prove something to someone. Either there long moved away from parents, or past rejections, or whatever. Jake is just the coolest dude in the room. No doubt. The thing that really surprised me was how much fun he was having doing it. His laugh is contagious. You can't help be drawn to someone who is running the entire social seen of a bar, busting up, getting crowds (I'm talking 15+ people at a time) laughing, clinging to his every word. When he started gaming the best looking girl in the bar (9.5 HB, big tits that were poppin everywhere, every guy checking her out) he made it a point to keep me up to date on what he was doing along the way. I stuck within 4 or 5 feet and listened, and whenever there was a break in the action he gave me a breakdown of what he was doing and why. Wow. From not ever looking at her tits, because every single other guy was (PUA's have to be the exception to the regular dude), to chatting with other hot women with intent to make the 9.5 jealous, to disarming her shit test in front of a crowd and getting them all laughing with and interested in him, to number closing, to kino. It was like watching Luke in Return of the Jedi at the door to Jabbas palace. He just waved his hand and said "you will take me to Jabba now" and having her just melt and doing it. However, Jabba, in this case, was inside her thong.

He also watched us do out approaches and broke them down. By the end of the night, I had women literally putting themselves on display on the bar with the "come hither" look. Honestly. I started out as nervous as they come, and with Jake's coaching, by the end of the night, I felt unstoppable. My game had gone from level 3 to 74 in a matter of hours. These lessons and impressions have lasted with me ever since. My game will never be the same.

Bottom line: I have never seen a guy having so much fun running an entire bar's social scene. I learned more on that 1 night than I had of 2 years of on and off learning and approaches I had done by myself. It's one thing to bang out approaches and read, but it's quite another to have one of the best around show you how a professional does it.

I have visited alot of pickup artists in my time, Mystery, Neil Strauss, Juggler, etc... but I have to say Brad P is truly number one, cause he really cares about his student's success. What Brad P does different is that he does not use a cookie-cutter approach, he uses his theory of "information-timing", to individualize the plan based on where you are on in the game. He is also, the type of PUA that people go to when other PUA's could not solve their problems.
So here's my story, last year I was a virgin, never ever even kissed or talked to girls, rarely, so I decided to get into the game. I took alot of bootcamps, Mystery, Juggler, Neil Strauss, and etc... tons of bootcamps. I learned how to approach, but I didnt get too much further... I got into a relationship for the first time, but it was only for a couple months. After the relationship broke, I completely just gave up on gaming, thought I was hopeless... After a year passed, I saw Brad P was voted number PUA of 2009, so I had to check him out.
I went to Brad P's bootcamp with other instructors Colin and Jake. The best part about Brad P was he right next to you when you are in set, constantly monitoring and constantly gathering feedback (instead of trying to get their own game on like some other PUA's). And, he does not care at all if you interrupt or blow his set as long as its for learning. So, Brad P finally analyzed me, and found my failures were due to inner game issues of "Nice Guy Syndrome", and he set long term goals for me to fix it. He was able to analyze me personally and give me the individual feedback I needed unlike other PUA's.
There were also some advanced students, who were already good in the game, and he showed them methods of how to be even more aggressive and make their game more solid.
Break Down of bootcamp:
Day 1:
Couple hours of theory / practice approach. Then, Brad P did something different. He took us to a bar where all we do is warm up / practice sets and watch Brad do demos, that got me over approach anxiety, after we were warm, we hit up a much more target rich bar. We hit up a nice lavish bar, I made a couple approaches, and bam a number close on the second / third approach, and I knew I was back in the game, after a yr, I didnt think it was possible... The rest of the night, I hung with Jake, and watched him do street approaches, I have seen the best PUA's mess about on late hrs on the street, but Jake was flawless, he could open girls behind / in front / or side to side of us, lol, number close, kiss close, boob grabbing / ass smacking close with girls begging for more, the girls would yell "Fabio" and try to grab his biceps... He opened, white, hispanic, african american, took an african american girl from a big african american guy, well you get the idea...
Day 2:
Dinner and Clubbing, got comfortable with opening and a little at attraction, I tried dancing with girls for the first time. ( I cant dance)
Day 3:
Brad P gave me the breakdown, talked about my "Nice Guy Syndrome", (well I like being nice), but set long term goals to help me out... he analyzed our day to day lifestyle and activities even, and how we can better manage our time and balance pickup and life...
Afterwards me and just the guys just hitup a club on our own, and for the first time I was dancing with a cute girl, and tight grinding and kino escalating with her boyfriend just standing next to me and watching, with an approval seeking response he asks the girl, "umm, what do you want me to do, fight him?" (he was bigger then me), she chuckles, I had my fun so I let him cut in...
In summary Brad P's teachings not only helped change my game, but my life as a whole....

Brad P (Casey Mahoney) gained fame by popularizing quick pulls.

His early writings show that he basically ripped off stuff from mystery method and david de angelo's stuff. He basically repackaged that and is trying to sell as his own.

His coaching sucks and he barely pays attention to any students.

His methods are not replicable. He was a rock musician and unless you plan to give up your identity to become a rock musician, don't fall into his trap.

He is a smooth talker, but over time even his own coaches have realized that he is infact a conman and have left him.

His new gimmick into getting new customers is offering click-bait ad coaching/affiliate marketing/bodybuilding, none of which he has any expertise in through his only forums. There has not been a single new student in the last 4 months since these real reviews started coming out on datingskillsreviews.

BradP has a history of removing his pictures and any means to find out who he really his. I think this is just so as to create a aura of mystery. Unlike cold approach pickup where the girls don't know of each other, we as PUA students do know of these coaches and can share reviews online.

Please don't fall into this scamsters trap.

His bootcamp is not worth the money.