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My background is the usual AFC horror story. I was Mr Nice Guy at university and girls could see me coming a mile away. Result: 15 years of marriage and a slow road to spiritual suicide (despite her being a great woman). I knew something wasn't right from the start. I felt like a man and wanted to be a man but I was totally a victim of social programming and had been turned into a eunuch. It took me 15 years to grow my balls back and leave. That was
6 years ago - however, I had much to learn and no one around to teach me. I was completely clueless. Girls around me were into me when I was just being natural but as soon as I wanted to make a move it was back into Mr Nice Guy and instant turn-off for them. After another LTR that lasted 2 years I discovered speed dating. I thought there must be a way to systematically improve my seduction skills so I went out to get as much experience as possible. I went on about 300 speed dates over a year and tried to learn everything I could about dating. I even maintained a database on who was who, who I was seeing when, what I did right, what I did wrong and so on.
This was good and my skills improved significantly to the point where there was no shortage of women but very few if any of them turned me on. This makes sense right? If you are a HB 8+, chances are you don't need to go speed dating to find a date! I wanted to be able to get the hot girls that I could see all around me in this country. I even started experimenting with direct approach before I even knew such a thing existed (with good results but I didn't persist - social programming is a tough thing to crack - I felt too awkward doing it) . Then I came across an article on The Game and had to get hold of a copy. Next thing I know, I discover the community and my eyes lit up. There are guys out there doing this?
As soon as I found out about the Badboy workshops, I knew they were for me.
It wasn't a question of indirect versus direct - they just had a natural appeal. It sounded like so much fun that even if you didn't get the girl, you would still end up having a blast. So I signed up for the earliest one I could make, and before I knew it, the time had flown by and I was on my way to Amsterdam for the sole purpose of taking this workshop. Yes I was scared - reading about something doesn't prepare you for the reality - but I since learned from Badboy that it wasn't fear - it was adrenalin. He was right.

The Aftermath
Seeing BB in action was worth it. I think the most important thing I learned on the workshop was when BB said that it's all about controlling the frame of the situation. By that I mean having complete faith and confidence in yourself and not being fazed by anything the girl says or does. Even that's not it. Maybe the best example I can think of is Don Juan de Marco. In that film, Johnny Depp's character, who is originally judged as suffering from a delusion (he thinks he's Don Juan), has such a strong frame that eventually even his psychiatrist is sucked into it. And here's the bizarre part. By having such a strong frame, you actually make your belief a reality. Sounds crazy and unbelievable - but it's true. Actually, I still haven't described it correctly. Watching BB, you can see how having the right frame can also put the girl into a trance. Reading about it is one thing. Seeing it for yourself is another.
Just an example of how powerful this stuff is. I'm sitting on a bench the day after the workshop enjoying some time in Amsterdam to myself. While I'm there I think to myself - might as well practise some alpha body language.
So I'm virtually sprawled over this bench, in the meantime talking to the guy on the bench next to me. (I talk to anyone and everyone now. In lines, on the tram, in cafes, wherever. It keeps approach anxiety at bay, I use a gazillion different natural openers for each situation and I get to practise my story-telling skills.) The next thing I know is, this HB7.5/24 sits down next to me. 5 minutes later she's sharing her joint with me. 25 minutes later she has to go but not before giving me her card. I didn't even ask for it!
Criticisms? I don't really have any. BB clearly has a product that has been honed and refined through experience. I could have wished to be pushed into more sets (I did about 45 over the entire workshop) but then I realized that the rate limiting step in this was not Badboy but me. The other criticism, which is not really a criticism is that 4 days is not enough. Yes, you pretty much get taught about 90% of the material that BB says is going to be covered but without the relevant experience, you can't make use of it. You therefore need to go, practise it, make some mistakes of your own and then get more light bulbs going off in your head. Aha! Now I know what BB is talking about. BB has been practising this for more years then there are days in the workshop. I would have liked to have gotten a kiss close but I realized that this is down to me and not BB and clearly I wasn't ready for it at my current level of development. The upshot? I think I will need to get at least a few more months of solid practice in before signing up for the Advanced Individualized Workshop.
Look. This is not a panacea. You can't expect to go in there an AFC and come out as Don Juan and Casanova rolled into one. What the whole BB experience has shown me is what is possible, how it's done and most importantly, how I can do it myself, all in a way that feels 100% natural. As with all workshops of any kind, however, once you've left the environment where someone else is imposing the external discipline, you risk falling back to where you were before. This was a big concern of mine. Now that BB has gone and the buzz has worn off, will what I've learned stick? The next day I was walking the streets of Amsterdam and bump into a fellow workshop attendee.
We go for a coffee before he catches a train back to Germany. And you know what? I realize I'm starting to think like a PUA. We walk in and I choose the table next to a 2-set. Halfway into my coffee I open up with a natural opener. I realize now that opening is really easy and the best cure for approach anxiety is action. A few minutes later we are both joining these two hotties at their table. A few minutes after that I'm reading the palm of the Russian HB8.5/17. Since then I've been visiting family in the States - not exactly the most conducive environment for an aspiring PUA (being with family, not being in Ameria that is). At one point though I couldn't resist and had to open the HB7.5/24 on the bench next to me in Minneapolis. Yep, works with American girls too. Have attraction, IOI's, building rapport and ... it's time to eject as my 3 kids and ex-wife are approaching! Having said that I can see that I've become rusty in these last few weeks. It'll be time to dust off the cobwebs again as soon as I'm back in South Africa.
Permanent and lasting change isn't going to come from attending workshops.
It's going to come from more of the same that got you in the workshop in the first place i.e. desire, discipline and not a small measure of balls. If this sounds like a lot of effort, it is. But it's also a lot of fun. That's where the life is.
I met a great bunch of guys (including my fellow students as well as workshop instructors), I had a great time, I had a life-altering experience.
BB is a great guy and you feel like he's been your friend since you were kids. All in all, I have to say (and I've checked this with myself to make sure I'm not exaggerating)...
This is the best money I've ever spent. On anything. Ever.
I don't know about the rest of you guys out there, but if I stopped to note down how much time I've spent thinking, talking and fantasizing about women I'm not having in my life, I'm sure it would consume almost half my waking hours. When I think about the amount of time, money and energy I've put into this, I feel sick. Even disgusted. What a waste! Not only does it sap your productivity but it ends up derailing your life. Ironically, I came on the workshop because I realized that there are other things in life besides women - therefore getting this sorted out meant that I could finally get on with the rest of my life. Which, after this workshop, is exactly what I intend to do.

I was going to write a really long and detailed report for you guys but all I would be doing is writing much the same as all the other reviews.
Bad boy is genius, simply (simple being the operative word) Genius. I mean his method's can be learned in a day and you'd be an expert in a couple of months, simple.
There's no doubt that he will push you into sets, over and over again. There are just too many sets to recolect, I'm also writting this review now that a HB8 has just climbed off of my dick and gone home (good girl, I like my own bed).
I mean to mention some of the sets, HB7.5 (6ft tall) pushed into set, Bad boy then bought me a chair over whilst I was in set for couple of minuites, then he said palm read, then take her up stairs and all the time she didn't bat an eye lid. Then I tounge downed and number closed, also have a day two set up.
Another set I wouldn't of dreamed of opening were two girls, sun bathing in Leicster square, one was a Hungarian model, I walked over, sat down, after being in set for 10 minuites I instant dated, number, e-mail and kiss closed and I didn't even ask for her number, she was so into the direct game!
I also street sarged a HB9 Arabic type girl, I isolated her on the street, then Bad boy came over and said to her that I am an international playboy and I WOULD seduce her, she then said that she had a boyfriend and Badboy laughed and said that wont matter... lol. I ran game and TOLD her that we were going for a drink, I walked back to her friend (that my wing was entertaining) hand in hand and we decided to go to a bar, but half way there disaster stuck and her huge boyfriend turned up (now I can handle myself but I really didn't fancy tangling with this monster, he stormed off and she nearly started crying and ran off after him (I'm feeling a tiny bit guilty here but it passes). Five minuites later I walk off to get some ciggerettes and walk back round the corner with a girl on each arm and me and the boys take them to all bar one.

Guys I want you to all try something, go up to a girl you like and say, hell your beautiful, tell me about yourself! it's as easy as that...
I opened about 70 sets and I fully recommend anyone to take this workshop, I already had game but it's all changed now, oh and you really can approach from behind, I did it about 10 times and didn't get blown out once!! infact I tounge downed a girl that I approached from behind...

Personal results: In 3 days I achieved approximately 25 phone numbers and a couple of kisses from about 60 cold approaches.
Some conclusions from the Badboy Workshop:
1) THIS IS NOT PAPER-FOLDING… You will not always be in your comfort zone. You will be pushed and at times you will hurt.
2) If you think you know what sarging is and you haven’t done a workshop… You don’t. Take the workshop. Attempt 20 challenging sets in a night and your attitude towards sarging is completely different. In every interaction, there is an opportunity, opportunity to change your map of reality and push the boundaries of what is possible.
3) Badboy teaches that the Anxiety in the approach is an illusion… it is the Adrenalin that is real. After 3 days, your body will have experienced so much adrenalin. You will feel tired and drained. Badboy told me that most students get sick immediately after a workshop because their bodies and minds go through such phenomenal change. We named this PWSD – Post-Workshop Stress Disorder. The is good news is: it’s not fatal, it will pass quickly and when it does, you have the option of becoming a new man.

4) This workshop is so practical! everything that you are taught works.
The Badboy style is easy to learn… MM may take 3 years… If you GENUINELY BELIEVE in the material, BB™s method can take months, maybe even weeks.

5) Badboy really knows his stuff. When you bomb out in a set, he will know exactly why you did wrong. Years in the field have given him immense calibration. He throws you into challenging yet practical sets and will give you guidance/advice throughout the set. As you have probably guessed, the guy is alpha and has an extremely strong frame; at the same time, he is still one of the boys. He will answer any question you have about seduction and ensure that you totally understand his answers. On the first day, I asked him to push me hard and I got what I asked for. I got what I asked for. I lost count of the number of times he sent me out of the seminar room and down onto the street to open a set. Before I left, we swapped numbers (Badboy was my 26th number close of the weekend!!!!); I hope to go to Croatia later this year to sarge with him and continue adding to my skills.
6) At the end of the workshop, 7 out of the 8 students had made massive improvements; the other guy had improved a lot. How could it be that we had all come so far in just 3 days? Badboy hadn’t given us new clothes, or made our bodies more buff, he didn’t give us special lines to use, he had simply opened our eyes to what is possible. Badboy calls this “Matrix Theory;� (rent the film). Society is geared towards making you view the world in a certain way. Societal pressures/constraints govern our behaviour and as a result, you miss out on countless opportunities because of the limiting beliefs in your own head. We all have an idea of what we think we can achieve with women and with life and the matrix ensures that these ideas are far removed from what is actually possible. So do you want to take the Blue Pill and carry on as normal? Or do you want to take the Red Pill and open your eyes to the world passing before your eyes.

PS I didn't take the last day of day sarging. On eof the students, 40 year old German caled Christian opened a 3 set of HB10's in a coffeeshop. He ended up kiss closing the a playboy model... This was the guy who said tat he could take to girls when they approached him but that he couldn't approach... Do you really stil need to be told to sign up for this course?
Badboy's workshop [really] rocked.

During this workshop my game improved exponentially. To the point where i began to wonder if i
actually had any game to begin with. The pace was fast and we went through a lot of stress. but
we had so much fun and my game improved to such an extent that i actually made an approach
(pretty girl at tram stop) during a break outside the classroom!
The theoretical part of the course was a complete journey through 'Direct style' Pickup. It changed
so many things about my inner game and forced me to un-learn some of the idiologies i had adopted.
The course gave me effective methods of approach, transition and seduction that proved
instantly successful. Never in my wildest dreams would i have been able to stop a pretty girl
in the street, and after just a few minutes see her laughing and touching her hair(and other attraction cues). Its phenominal!
You cross over from AFC to another world, a totally new mindset. Girls look at me now in
a different way, and me them.
If you have the balls and a firm commitment to change certain aspects of your mindset, then
this course represents the 'red pill' from the MATRIX.
If you want to be a real 'MAN' and walk the higher path of pickup - Then take the course!
Its like an Extreme Sport for the mind!

I recently took a one day intruction with Badboy on daygame and thought I'd post a review here as well, since to the best of my knowledge, Badboylifestyles seems to be an affiliate company of some sort. I hope that's ok.

Let me begin by telling a little about myself....

I discovered the community, like many other guys, through Neil Strauss' book. However, I didn't start really practicing the art until many months later when I took my first bootcamp with RSD.

Although, I learned a lot and got my first real results after taking their program, I still had a lot of issues with daygame. I felt very 'on stage' when approaching strangers outside of a naturally social environment and moving sets were especially difficult. Daytime was truly not something I felt comfortable.

After taking one-on-one instruction with Badboy himself, that has all changed. Moving sets are actually pretty easy if you know the right way to get them to stop. I’m also much more at ease gaming during the daytime and actually find it easier to talk when there is no loud music and flashing lights everywhere.

When the workshop began, Badboy had me do an improv exercise for generating spontaneous openers on the spot. We also worked on some sub-communication related issues such as body language, eye contact, and ran a few practice drills before heading out.

After some more talk on pick up theory, we drove over to Beverly Center in Hollywood, where I put the knowledge he gave me into practice. The drills he had me do started out small, such as stopping a moving set and asking an opinion, but then got progressively harder. By the end of the day, I was confidently approaching moving and seated sets and was going direct on them within minutes. To my surprise the girls actually enjoyed me telling them that I stopped them, because I thought they were 'sexy” and I gained a totally new perspective on what’s possible when you use direct game.

My only regret at the end of the day was that I had only signed up for one session with Badboy and wasn’t going to have him around with me when I go out in the future.

In short, I would strongly recommend taking a workshop with Badboy to just about any guy interested in getting this part of his life handled. He’s a great teacher and will help you quickly take your game to the next level

The three day Badboy Workshop in Montreal seems from the perspective as a pretty remarkable event…For the guy after 40 it means something, as we usually assume that any change of behavior or character later in life is much tougher… Anyway, I feel that I do changed (or eliminated) something which was part of me for a long time - lack of confidence or fear of approaching a woman…I knew about this before but actually dealing with that was a complete different story. Now I know how important it is to convey the image of power and confidence (as it cost me a broken marriage and a few long term relationships…) So, the biggest benefit of this workshop was to face these fears directly both by practicing cold approaches afternoons (with Badboy and other co-participants) and “implementing” them in the real life – in a “war zone” of the night clubs…As we were assured that rejection is part of this learning process and will (at the beginning) happen, I really didn’t care about that… And it happened much, much less then I anticipated! Now, when I go the clubs (or approach woman elsewhere) I simply recall this feeling of power and determination from the workshop when I was running from set to set and was opening with any word (yes!) Badboy suggested or pop-in to my mind (for example ping pong…) it proves powerfully that what you say is much less significant then HOW you say it... When you behave like that, with that kind of frame and confidence; the outcome is very predictable (almost assured) : on the second night I get laid with a beautiful and hot (although little shy) Mexican girl in my hotel…And it was a very long night…

So why should you attend a Badboy workshop rather than just listen to the CDs? The information you get is pretty similar after all.
Firstly I was at the same BB workshop as Babygirl and Flava Flav. In my opinion BG was a bit of a natural beforehand anyway - but FF - when he first introduced himself as we went around the table at the start I thought 'Shit, this guy is gonna have problems here.' No shit, the guy talked into his chest and was mumbling and bumbling his words - basically a nervous mess with AFC written all over him (sorry FF, it's true!)
3 days later this guy was like some kind of approach machine. Does a BB workshop fix you 100%? Of course not! You can't expect to rid 20+ years of limiting beliefs in 3 days. But what does happen is you see the practical application of the CDs in person and you get pushed harder than ever before. It's all well and good listening to the CDs, but it's only when you see it demonstrated right in front of you that you truly understand the power of this.
I actually didn't feel that changed directly after the workshop. I had some good new techniques and stuff to work on, but I didn't feel like a changed man. Before I went in I was dependent on routines and canned stuff. Now I rarely use routines and am mostly spontaneous in set - BB is mainly responsible for this. But it has taken me some time since to get used to this new method of pickup - routine free! Understanding how to run game without routines is like being released from Alcatraz after 50 years! No dependency on anything - fantastic!
So now when I see all these ridiculous threads every other day 'There is a movie of the Game - we're all fucked!!!!', I laugh my ass off! If your entire game is a routine - yes, you're [doomed]! If you actually have a personality outside of stupid esp games and the cube, you have no problem.

So 4 months on, where am I now? I've been solidly practicing the techniques taught - particularly involving leading, dominance and being a man not just in PU, but in life in general.

The best thing about the Badboy workshop (apart from the amazing experience as a whole and meeting some wonderful people) was that I learned to stop being such anexcuser and start living my life as a real man. It's taken me time to put this into action and it's only now I'm beginning to see regular results.
So if you're the kind of person to attend a seminar with the attitude 'Ok instructor, fix me now', don't attend a Badboy workshop. You WILL be required to join in and approach difficult sets. This WILL hurt, sometimes a lot. If you go in 100% and throw yourself right into it, it could be the best money you ever spend. Of course, it's not all over after 3 days. You have to keep practicing and working at your game to get where you want to be.

I’m not going to go into a detailed description of what happened at the workshop because so many others have covered this. What I will say is Badboy is one of the greatest guys I’ve met in my life, and you need to spend time with him. Pick-up, as with any skill, is not learned through books, CDs or DVDs. First, you need to be in the presence of a guy that has mastered this game. You need to see what confidence looks and smells like. After 3 days with Badboy, his confidence will penetrate you.

Another rare quality Badboy has is a very deep awareness about society, life and girls. When you look at a group of girls you see one thing, and he sees something completely different. You need to see what he sees!

My conclusions from taking the workshop:

1) Learn direct approach. Badboy will also teach you indirect, so you’re not missing out on anything. But indirect is like training wheels. Eventually you have to drop them and ride a bike for real. Once you learn direct, any guy you see sarging with only indirect will look like a grown man riding a 10-speed bike with training wheels.

2) You are not just going to learn to sarge. You’ll gain greater confidence and awareness which will help you in all aspects of life. If all you know is indirect, your confidence can only increase so far. You only live once man! Go all the way!

3) You cannot get the vision, awareness and confidence that I gained from the workshop in any other way besides being around Badboy for 3 days. I have his e-book, DVDs and CDs. They were “interesting” before the workshop, but they became far more meaningful after the workshop. The workshop will give a quantum leap in your game.

The workshop was truly a perception-expanding and fun experience. Badboy is simply a great guy. After our second night out, we came back to my hotel and he has teaching us how to walk a girl for an hour and a half……at 2 AM in the morning! He didn’t have to do that! He truly is a friend that wants to see you get good.

Was the workshop worth the money? The short answer is YES, even including the flight, hotel and food costs. There are lots of information and details that you would not get anywhere else. Did it change my life? It was definitely a revelation to what is possible, but as for the changing my life, NOT YET. I will know in a month or two. Badboy said that it would take 5 or 6 weeks of practicing to get good. I will get back to you in a month or two. Ideally, I would have liked to take the workshop immediately followed by a one day 1-on-1 coaching session.

The workshop was a lot of work. I hope that no one goes into expecting miracles. I think most workshops are like this and you only get good after a while, not immediately after the workshop. Hope this is helpful to those who is thinking about taking the Badboy workshop.

The investment of this workshop was a greater investment which included traveling from Ontario, Canada to Eastern Europe ($1600 plane ticket), bed and breakfast lodging (can’t recall the cost but quite cheap), and approximately Individual workshop cost was $1600-1800. I had spent roughly 8 days in Croatia in total during the winter and 2 days travel. Less then $4500 was spent on the experience.

This was a great deal…just a few months before The GAME came out as workshop, and seminar prices were cheaper.

I spent 3 days in an intensive workshop mode with Badboy and Cortez learning theory, performing drills, and incorporating the ideas into the field. I also had Shark one afternoon teaching his Basic Playboy. Shark was in production of his Attract and Date CD series at the time.

I was in a serious transition mode of letting go of Indirect PUA and learning to develop a Direct Natural approach. Their marketing angle worked at the time and hooked unsatisfied users of the Indirect Schools being practiced in Canada and the U.S.A.

I also spent hours in Instant Messenger with a workshop attendee who felt transformed by their teachings. Plus Basic Playboy was their recommended product. I spent some time preparing for workshop incorporating their teachings, beliefs, body language, and mindset at night. I also lost some weight and changed my clothing style from Metro Sexual to more of a Natural Clean Generic sort of vibe.

HIGHLIGHTS:
• Bad boy’s explanation of The Matrix
• Direct openers
• Alpha Male Body Language and sub-communication
• Bad boy ideas about Rapport
• Lots of infield with Cortez as a wing and Badboy for infield instruction support
• Spending 2 days with the guys after the workshop including Shark (almost 5 days of teaching)

The workshop helped me transition from indirect to the changes that were about to happen. The dropping of indirect routines was not a big deal for me…as many of us caught wind of what the book was going to do. So guys started to transition away from Indirect even as early as 2004. This was before the book came out and even the new crop of workshop instructors after The Game came on the scene reciting the same crap we were moving away from a few years prior.

My biggest struggle that weekend was within myself. I realized their approach to Inner-Game was not going to heal my own internal battles. I certainly learned a different skill-set, but walked away a bit more frustrated and eventually went into a downward spiral. This had nothing to do with Badboy and co. but more to do with myself.

Sometimes you just hit the wall, and I slowly had to return to Hypnosis/NLP based Inner-Game practices via Hypnotica and his DYD classic Master’s speech and eventually the teachings of David Deida.

I think the biggest thing I got from my Badboy experience…was a better understanding of sub- communication of even the skill of feel within my body of exploring dominance.