Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)

Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)
Jon Sinn also known as "The Real Sinn" was one of the early students of Mystery (Erik Von Markovik) and the lead instructor for Mystery Method Corporation (which later became Love Systems) between 2005 and 2008.

He left Mystery Method Corp. in early 2008 to form his own dating company "Sinns of Attraction" where he has continued to evolve and tweak the original Mystery Method system based on his own experience.

Sinn has slept with over 200 women and has a lifestyle where he is dating multiple women and mostly meeting new women at private parties, through social circle or day game.

Wiki Contents

  1. Personal Data
  2. Trademark Advice
  3. Biography
  4. Interviews
  5. Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)'s Credentials & Experience
  6. Books, Courses and Coaching & Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) Reviews

Personal Data

Commercial Alias Name: Sinn or Jon Sinn or The Real Sinn

Real Name: Jonathan Lee (or Jon Lee)

Nationality: American

Date of Birth: February 01, 1981 (Age 44)

Height: 5"11

Profession(s): Pick Up Artist (PUA)

Affiliated Dating Companies: Sinns of Attraction

Web Presences

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Trademark Advice

In 2007 Sinn moved to Texas to learn to get better at Same Night Lay (SNL) Game from Captain Jack who had a good reputation at the time. Once he learned from Captain Jack, they put together a joint system which became one of Sinn's first products. Sinn became well known for this product.

Sinn is also known for Day Game, which he says he was forced to learn at the beginning because he was under-age and couldn't go to bars or night clubs. This led him to produce the Day Game seminar for Mystery Method, which was the first to ever examine what has now become well known as "day game".

Finally, Sinn is also known for "Breakthrough Comfort" which he developed with Future at the original Mystery Method Corporation. They describe this system as backwards engineered Love.

Jon Sinn Quotes

"Comfort can exist without attraction, but attraction can't really exist without comfort." "Everyone I know who is good with women makes mistakes.. it's how they correct those mistakes that determines whether or not they get laid." "Trying to shoot for perfect, trying to be too cool, those are two mistakes I think the pickup community ruins guys with."

Biography

Personal Life

As a teenager Jon self reports that he was made fun of because of his spectacular failures with women. He grew up in and has stayed in Los Angeles his whole life. He currently lives near the W Hotel next to Beverly Hills/ Bel Air.

Pickup Artist Career

Jonathan appeared first posting on seduction forums in 2002 and first began approaching women and using what he was learning in 2003.

He got deeper into "the game" when he took a workshop with Mystery (Erik von Markovik) in 2004. This eventually led to him becoming an intern in Mystery's first company Mystery Method Corporation where he taught bootcamps under Mystery.

While working as an intern he contributed to the original Venusian Arts Handbook by writing some of the sections.

In November 2005 Sinn moved a rung up the ladder when he taught his first bootcamp without Mystery, effectively making him the only other lead instructor at Mystery Method at the time. Between 2005 and 2009 he would end up teaching around 100 bootcamps altogether.

As the lead instructor between 2005 and 2007 Sinn trained many of the instructors that went on to work with Love Systems (e.g. Tenmagnet) or other companies (e.g. Ozzie from Real Social Dynamics).

When Mystery left Mystery Method in 2006 Jon decided to stay on with Nick Savoy, Mystery's co-founder at Mystery Method. The other more experienced instructors at the time, Matador and Lovedrop, left with Mystery, leaving Jon to take on responsibility for bootcamps.

In the next two years Jon would work closely with Nick Savoy to help build Mystery Method (before it was rebranded to Love Systems in 2008) into a successful dating company. He was instrumental in leading bootcamps and also helped to write Love Systems' flagship training manual "The Magic Bullets Handbook" with Nick Savoy. In 2008 Sinn broke away from Love Systems and created his own company, Sinns of Attraction. He says that he left Love Systems because he no longer believed in the bootcamp training model. He thinks that it isn't realistic to teach men to get good in just one bootcamp weekend. When he started up Sinns of Attraction he introduced a mentoring program which was 12 months long and combined 2 bootcamps over the year with some other support services like phone coaching.

From 2009 he stopped teaching live bootcamps and focused on phone coaching and developing training home study products. Today his flagship product is The Seduction Roadmap.

Since starting Sinns of Attraction Jon Sinn has remained a one dating coach - dating company.

Note: Jon Sinn is sometimes confused with another dating coach who uses the name "Sin" or Original Sin. "Original Sin" was one of the men in the Project Hollywood mansion who featured in "The Game", but who has since disappeared from the pickup artist community and dating advice scene.

Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)'s Credentials & Experience

Sinn gets a lot of respect from many of the pick up artists.

Sinn self reported in mid-2013 that he had slept with over 200 women.


Books, Courses and Coaching & Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) Reviews

Books, Courses and Coaching by Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)

  • 1.  Interview Series Vol. 1 Approaching and Transitioning  (March 01, 2006)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    8.7
  • 2.  Interview Series Vol. 3 Storytelling  (May 01, 2006)
    Authors: Future • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    8.6
  • 3.  Interview Series Vol. 5 Frame Control and Subcommunications  (July 01, 2006)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    9.5
  • 4.  Interview Series Vol. 6 Identity  (August 01, 2006)
    Authors: Future • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Tenmagnet  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    5.1
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    9.0
  • 5.  Interview Series Vol. 8 Qualification  (September 01, 2006)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    9.1
  • 6.  Interview Series Vol. 10 Phone Game  (November 01, 2006)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Nick Savoy  | Company: Love Systems
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    0.0
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    8.9
  • 7.  Interview Series Vol. 11 Physical Escalation And Kissing  (December 01, 2006)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Love Systems
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    0.0
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    10.0
  • 8.  Interview Series Vol. 12 On Seduction  (January 01, 2007)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Tenmagnet  | Company: Love Systems
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 9.  The Complete Day Game From A to Z Mastery Program  (January 01, 2007)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    4.4
  • 10.  Interview Series Bundle Pack 1  (January 01, 2008)
    Authors: Future • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • The Don  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    9.2
  • 11.  Interview Series Bundle Pack 2  (January 01, 2008)
    Authors: BadBoy • Brad P. • Future • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Rokker • Tenmagnet • The Don  | Company: Love Systems
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 12.  Beyond The Game  (May 02, 2008)
    Authors: Adam Lyons (AFC Adam) • Brad P. • David Wygant • Decker Cunov • Don Diego Garcia • Jerry Tran (The Asian Playboy) • Johnny Wolf • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Mehow • Mystery (Erik von Markovik) • Sal Peer (Speer) • Sean Messenger • Vince Kelvin (Hollywood)  | Company: PUA Summit
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 13.  Infield Insider Vault Episode 10  (September 01, 2008)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Mehow Inc
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    7.4
  • 14.  Secrets Of Sinn  (January 01, 2009)
    Authors: Dean Cortez • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: MACK Tactics
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 15.  The Real Secrets Of Natural Attraction  (January 01, 2009)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    4.2
    Average User Rating
     
    0.0
  • 16.  Advanced Strategies For Sexualized Comfort  (October 01, 2009)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 17.  The Social Training Lab  (October 28, 2009)
    Authors: Bobby Rio • Braddock • Carlos Xuma • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Kezia Noble • Mark Manson (Entropy) • Paul Janka • Rob Judge • Ryan DRH • Sixty (Chris Andersen) • Tyler Tray  | Company: TSBMag
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 18.  Flake Elimination Toolkit  (December 17, 2009)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    6.4
    Average User Rating
     
    0.0
  • 19.  Conversation Master Class  (January 01, 2010)
    Authors: Alex Coulson • Carlos Xuma • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • JT Tran  | Company: Succeed At Dating
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 20.  The 21 Convention Event Footage (2007–2009)  (January 01, 2010)
    Authors: Adam Lyons (AFC Adam) • Anthony Johnson (Dream) • Braddock • Chris Orleans • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Mehow • Steve Mayeda (El Topo)  | Company: The 21 Convention
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 21.  The Seduction Roadmap  (April 06, 2010)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    8.2
    Average User Rating
     
    7.4
  • 22.  Beyond Seduction: 3 Days to Mastering Confidence and Techniques with Women  (October 22, 2010)
    Authors: Carlos Xuma • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    Average User Rating
     
    0.0
  • 23.  The Guru Black Book  (October 29, 2010)
    Authors: Action Jackson • Adam Lyons (AFC Adam) • Alex Coulson • Bill Preston • Bobby Rio • Brad Jackson • Brent Smith • Carlos Xuma • David Wygant • Dean Cortez • DJ Fuji • Gambler (Richard La Ruina) • John Alanis • Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee) • Jordan Harbinger • Julian Foxx • Kezia Noble • Lance Mason • Mark Manson (Entropy) • Marni Kinrys • Nick Quick • Playboy (Stephen Nash) • Scot McKay • Vin DiCarlo • Yad  | Company: The Guru Black Book
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 24.  How To Get Girls To Chase You  (May 22, 2011)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 25.  Breakthrough Comfort Formula  (June 02, 2011)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 26.  Secrets of 5 Minute Chemistry  (July 01, 2011)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    7.1
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    6.8
  • 27.  Destination: Girlfriend Coaching Program  (October 04, 2011)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 28.  Day Game 3.0: The New Rules For Day Time Seduction  (July 01, 2012)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 29.  From Hello to Sex: The Man's Guide to Getting Laid  (September 24, 2012)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 30.  Destination Girlfriend: 4 Steps To Landing Your DREAM GIRL In 30 Days Or Less  (December 01, 2012)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 31.  Escaping The Friend Zone  (December 01, 2012)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 32.  Get Laid More University  (January 01, 2013)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 33.  100 Days To Inner Game  (April 01, 2013)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 34.  Effortless Conversation System  (July 18, 2013)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    6.4
    Average User Rating
     
    8.3
  • 35.  The Complete Guide To Sexualized Texting  (September 01, 2013)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 36.  Secrets of Sexual Attraction  (January 01, 2014)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 37.  Get Laid More Home Study Course  (June 01, 2014)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 38.  Automatic Approaching  (January 01, 2015)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 39.  The Science of Micro-Expressions  (February 01, 2015)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 40.  The Stripper Code  (February 20, 2015)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
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    0.0
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    0.0
  • 41.  Sexual Intelligence Training Program  (October 01, 2015)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0
  • 42.  Relationship Mastery: The Proven Blueprint for Getting the Perfect Relationship You’ve Always Wanted  (September 01, 2016)
    Authors: Jon Sinn (Jonathan Lee)  | Company: Sinns of Attraction
    DSR Editor Rating
     
    0.0
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    0.0

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